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    Player Defiledsickness's Avatar
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    ok so your spamming delta thrust in VW and you can swap ur set in time to not get hit? its just not realistic. are you spamming on seal mobs? i understand delta thrust is a good spell but i dont understand how people can act like they use it anywhere but xping and then say its worth wasting half your set points on fast cast. TA, DA, SCbonus, AtkBonus, AccBonus, +str/dex from spells... these all outweigh fast cast unless ur only blitzing and procing so delta is the only DD spell u set for more proc space.
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    Player Annahya's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Defiledsickness View Post
    ok so your spamming delta thrust in VW and you can swap ur set in time to not get hit? its just not realistic. are you spamming on seal mobs? i understand delta thrust is a good spell but i dont understand how people can act like they use it anywhere but xping and then say its worth wasting half your set points on fast cast. TA, DA, SCbonus, AtkBonus, AccBonus, +str/dex from spells... these all outweigh fast cast unless ur only blitzing and procing so delta is the only DD spell u set for more proc space.
    Gearswaps are a touchy subject, what with Windower plugins like spellcast that allow people to gearswap multiple times during a given action (read: spell) to maximize the situational buffs of various peices of equipment. So, as much as it irritates me to say: you are unfortunately incorrect by calling it unrealistic (at least for PC players). I am trying very hard not to launch into a tirade about Windower plugins, so I am going to change subjects.

    I am not sure what you meant by including the "where do you use Delta Thrust" and "setting Fast Cast" in the same assertion - as one is regarding use of a spell, and the other is about set-point economy, and both of these can easily coexist at 99. As such, I will address them separately.

    Delta Thrust, aside from its amazing cost-to-damage ratio, also has a chance to stick the mob with a debuff. I don't know why one wouldn't use Delta Thrust on everything, including NMs, breakfast bagels, the dancefloor, and so on. As many individuals have pointed out in various threads here in the BLU forums, TP feed is not the real concern - TP feed considered against the efficacy of your action is what matters.

    Setting Fast Cast (I or II) hardly takes half of our points; and depending on the situation could outweigh at least two, if not three, of the traits/benefits you listed above. I am not arguing that one should set Fast Cast as a BLU, merely that it can't be reasonably asserted as costing half of our points - unless the caveat is made that this assumes we have already spend the twenty points on DWIII and that you are specifically referring to the remaining balance (though, admittedly, nearly half would be more appropriate in this instance). I apologize for the semantic nitpicking, but hyperbole should be reserved for the part of the argument that makes the emotional point, not used in the part of the argument that actually discusses the details of your position, as it undermines credibility for humor that text prevents everyone from getting.

    Bringing the two points together, as you did toward the end of your post: Even when proc'ing one can set quite a few damage spells unless one is lazily setting the procs for every element at once - and even then, Delta Thrust should be a main part of your casting cycle. This is not because it is all you have, it is because it is really good. If you meant setting Fast Cast II and a good selection of proc-spells when you made that point, I would counter that if you know that your main job in said party is Yellow !!, one could save those 15 set-points by subbing RDM and as such also provide the party with Dispel as a dark option. A low man group's BLM will likely be subbing BRD, and the tank will likely be able to provide the NIN spells - but perhaps this is my own limited experience.

    I apologize, but for the above reasons, I have to disagree with much of your post.
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