BLU and clubs

[Joss]

BLU is tied for third in club skill with a B-, yet nearly all of the better melee and mage type clubs are not equipable. Especially now with the new update and WS merits, are there any plans to introduce more club options for BLU (or even allowing access to some magian trials)?

Other thoughts on this?

[MakkotoParinne]

I think that if a job has a decent amount of skill in a weapon style, it should have access to the Magian Trials for it. (Such as Mnk/Pld not on staff trials)

Whm as the only job on the club trials is odd, considering Pld has a higher A- skill, and War/Blu have B- club skill.

I'm not exactly a Blu expert (getting there!) but I think clubs could open different skillchain options and damage options, such as fighting mobs that are slashing resistant.

[Tsukino_Kaji]

BluMAGE. It sucks, but it's probably the main reason why.

[Prothscar]

Um? How is that relevant in the slightest? We already use blades, something that isn't really akin to "magery", and WHM does in fact have mastery over two weapons: staff and club, so even if that were the reason somehow, it wouldn't be a very good one.

Blue Mages are usually known to wield clubs and polearms to be frank, not swords. Not saying I'd switch out swords for clubs or polearms(though that would be pretty badass), but not giving BLU access to more types of clubs is sort of strange.

No real reason that BLU shouldn't have a better assortment of clubs.

[Tsukino_Kaji]

Where did you ever see a blu with a polearm? >.>

[SpankWustler]

Not being on Magian clubs is no surprise, but it is odd to me that apparently the Development Bros are going out of their way to leave a large number of jobs off of random clubs. It's annoying in the case of Bluemage, since clubs are one of it the whopping two options for weapons.

Of the clubs dug up by .dat mining the various languages of the test server, one club is the high damage/high delay variety and I think one is actually a mislabeled staff (it has 366 delay). No surprise that the usual random mage assortment isn't on either of those. But, there's a third one. It's a straight-up wand type, so the whole gaggle of mages should be on it, right?

Club
DMG:47 Delay:210 MND+10 Additional Effect: Light Damage
Ra/Ex 99 WAR WHM PLD

God forbid Blue Mage ever get a slight upgrade for Perdu Wand for those rare times when blunt damage or a club weaponskill might be helpful.

[Economizer]

Club
DMG:47 Delay:210 MND+10 Additional Effect: Light Damage
Ra/Ex 99 WAR WHM PLD

Looks like an upgrade to the Winged Wand (has a hidden effect of fire damage):



I think I farmed this thing for an offhand club for White Mage until I got the mutlihitter (come to think of it, Dark Knight, a job that I personally would have never put on the Kraken Club is on the thing, but Blue Mage isn't, weird).

Considering that both would be an upgrade for BLU over this:



Without being this:



I think it would be okay, even if SE intends for BLU to be weak on clubs.

[Prothscar]

Where did you ever see a blu with a polearm? >.>

Khimari, Quina technically if you want to count forks.


...and yeah. BLU is relegated to only wands, and we haven't even gotten access to any of those since 75.

[Cabalabob]

Khimari, Quina technically if you want to count forks.

khimari was technically a drg/blu (spear + jump being his first limit break + lancet a recurring drg ability) dunno who Quina is though.

anyway, although i agree blu should get access to more clubs i honestly don't think it's that important, if we need to kill something blunt weak most of our better spells are blunt now anyway (quad. continuum, gob rush, i think benethic typhoon) so the only reason to use clubs is for the stats on it, which you could probably get from doing a sword magian trial or if it's a magical spell, equipping an elemental staff.

As for the point of SC's we can already make light and dark with sword so we don't really need any other SC's than that.

although i do agree blu should have better access to clubs, i also think it should get daggers and all the skills be more equal ratings, that way if we are using more blunt spells we'd get a better boost from using clubs and if using piercing spells we'd get a better boost from daggers. Though the daggers should be limited to those harpe style daggers they are kinda fitting for blu seeing as they're curved daggers

[Defiledsickness]

Quistis Trepe (i think on spelling) final fantasy 8. She is a blue mage because you use items to teach her special moves. since 8 was before 11 you cant really argue that she isnt a blu because of your ff11 knowledge of blus (and most descriptions describe her as a blu) --oh wait she uses whips

kimari from ff10 is a blu because his Lancet ability teaches him enemies moves. like Self-Destruct which is in ffxi as well.

anyways, blu uses curved swords to fit the Whitegate story and dragoon/sam existed before blu came to ffxi so that's probably why they decided not to give another job polearms. but i agree; club has a lot of good WS's and blu can do decent SC's with them, so we should be being put on new clubs over warrior. not like a war cares to do dmg with them and they have enough options to proc already.