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    Quote Originally Posted by Runespider View Post
    Why is it the people that want the old ways back are usually the ones that did it the least (or that quit for FFXIV and now are crawling back on their hands and knees cause it sucks).

    Most people I know of that actually did old endgame hardcore don't want to go back to that horrible s***. I did Salvage 3 times a week, Dyna twice, Limbus twice, Ein twice, Assault over and over to get points to...do salvage, HNM every other moment I was free and playing the game I pay to play (fu sandwowrm/DI) cause the LS would guilt trip you if you didn't fkin go and you were online and I'd would rather not go back to it.

    Some scrub saying how easy the game has become that doesn't even have a brutal earring needs to be seen as the pure troll they are and stfu seriously.
    Old endgame did suck if you decided to dedicate your life to it, i personally ran endgame and spaced it out through the years, never had an issue with guilt trips nor did i guilt trip the members, sorry to say your one of the people who let a "Game" become work for you, FFXI now is way too easy to me personally, the abyssea entry at 30 probably the worst idea as now you can burn a job from 1-95 in 2 days. Gear is all the same easily obtainable nothing that really separates the better players from a random moron who burns a job to 95 and has no clue how to use it. Now as for this whole Brutal Earring debate it really is just about useless to anyone without a double attack set, you stick 5% on someone it will trigger just not often, and to call someone a troll over just not having an earring, that i find lol some gear i myself dragged out just because i had no use for it at the time, and as far as im concerned the only trolls i see here are the ones bashing others over gear, just because they dont have it does not mean they dont know how it works.
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  2. #352
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arcon View Post
    You don't get it. Abyssea was fun, no one argues that. But it's far from a success. It's bad, and it killed FFXI, possibly for good this time.

    FFXI is a MMORPG, and one of any MMORPG's main goals should be longevity. Part of longevity is finding the balance between enjoyable content and slow progression. Too slow, and players lose interest, too fast, and you're not able to dish out enough content in time to keep people entertained. Abyssea tipped that balance way into the latter category. It's as if the development team forgot what most gamers, especially online gamers, are like. They plow through content. Just a few weeks after Heroes of Abyssea was released, all the mobs in there have already been defeated, more than once. Three months after it was released, many HNMLS have quit for good, because they had all Empyreans finished and every piece of gear they wanted. And for casual players it only took longer (and not much, because they're getting the hang of it as well.

    In short, Abyssea removed a large chunk of the hardcore players from FFXI. However, those players were the ones who were able to deal with real content better, which is why now everyone complains about Voidwatch. It's very hard to go back to "normal" FFXI, after Abyssea, which was FFXI on ecstasy. And I'm not sure if people will ever be able to recover.

    Old FFXI had it right. You may have considered it too slow, or too hard, or whatever, but thankfully what you think doesn't count, only numbers count. And in the decade that FFXI existed, never have more people quit than after Abyssea was released. Maybe some people will return some time from now, but a large part of the damage is done. We'll see what will become of this game, but whatever you wanna think, Abyssea was a bad move on SE's part (and they know it, as you can see).

    About the interview... I'm quite surprised SE admitted this. Honestly, I wasn't even sure if they even knew what was going on. But kudos to them for saying it like it is, let's hope they get back in gear to give us real content.

    Also, shut up:
    Exactly! Abyssea is pretty much why I gave up on FFXI.
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  3. #353
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    Quote Originally Posted by kylani View Post
    Exactly! Abyssea is pretty much why I gave up on FFXI.
    Abyssea is what brought me to feeling FFXI does have an end, whereas before it didnt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ruzoko View Post
    Abyssea is what brought me to feeling FFXI does have an end, whereas before it didnt.
    I feel the same way somewhat, but as most would say on this thread, abyssea revolutionized everything in final fantasy, not replaces and made all of the content obsolete.

    No instead we get people mentioning other content has augments, most augments up to now, (Not future augments as i know someone will retard read this and try to mention future shit that isnt out) Hardly any of them compare to abyssea gear, so why even do the content if the gear isnt to par, its become a 'do that event til you get that piece then we ditch it and go back to abyssea' Yeah sorry no, thats plain as day, do some searches to old content areas if you want to contest that fact. and if people are really ganna use the 'it helped me maintain life and enjoy the game without the time sinks' then you have or had some extreme issues and shouldnt be on an MMO in the first place if you have heavy time constraints.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Winrie View Post
    I feel the same way somewhat, but as most would say on this thread, abyssea revolutionized everything in final fantasy, not replaces and made all of the content obsolete.

    No instead we get people mentioning other content has augments, most augments up to now, (Not future augments as i know someone will retard read this and try to mention future shit that isnt out) Hardly any of them compare to abyssea gear, so why even do the content if the gear isnt to par, its become a 'do that event til you get that piece then we ditch it and go back to abyssea' Yeah sorry no, thats plain as day, do some searches to old content areas if you want to contest that fact. and if people are really ganna use the 'it helped me maintain life and enjoy the game without the time sinks' then you have or had some extreme issues and shouldnt be on an MMO in the first place if you have heavy time constraints.
    Definately agree with this, if you dont have the time for the game dont play it, for those of us who had some time to spare to ffxi this new era of do whatever whenever killed what ffxi used to be.
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    Player Zaknafein's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Runespider View Post
    Why is it the people that want the old ways back are usually the ones that did it the least (or that quit for FFXIV and now are crawling back on their hands and knees cause it sucks).

    Most people I know of that actually did old endgame hardcore don't want to go back to that horrible s***. I did Salvage 3 times a week, Dyna twice, Limbus twice, Ein twice, Assault over and over to get points to...do salvage, HNM every other moment I was free and playing the game I pay to play (fu sandwowrm/DI) cause the LS would guilt trip you if you didn't fkin go and you were online and I'd would rather not go back to it.

    Some scrub saying how easy the game has become that doesn't even have a brutal earring needs to be seen as the pure troll they are and stfu seriously.
    I have suspected since this website began that you were just a gimp on Ramuh. Then overtime as abyssea was released you, and the other gimps started feeling good about yourselves to the point you felt like pro's. Yet here in this quote you seem to talk about all the end game content you did, and HNM pre-abyssea.

    So if you're such a pro have some balls, and tell us your character name, and LS from Ramuh. No threat to your E security.. Ramuh is gone. If you were a decent player I'll eat my hat. You'll just cite some of your "Amagad Gaiz!" "I'm entitled to my internet anonymity." BS.. However you, and I know the truth. You decided to go stealth on this forum so you could talk like you're all that without anyone checking your profile, and seeing you as the gimp you are.

    Please feel free to prove me wrong.

    Quote Originally Posted by Arcon View Post
    People who did old content regularly are the ones who want it back, including me. And I know plenty of people who quit because of it.
    This is the truth.
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    Their thing says they are from Sylph, why would the be from Ramuh?

    Honestly, Old FFXI wasnt as great as people remember it being. Some events werent that bad. Limbus, Einherjar, Salvage.

    I hope to god they never go back to HNM.
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  8. #358
    Player Zaknafein's Avatar
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    Their "thing" is a mule, and can be from anywhere. Prior to people being able to skirt the forum with mules however the main used to read Ramuh. Craptastic decision to let people post from mules on here instead of main characters. Almost as bad of an idea as abyssea...
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    I thought these forums came out after Ramuh was no longer a server.
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    Incorrect.
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