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    Player kylani's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arcon View Post
    You don't get it. Abyssea was fun, no one argues that. But it's far from a success. It's bad, and it killed FFXI, possibly for good this time.

    FFXI is a MMORPG, and one of any MMORPG's main goals should be longevity. Part of longevity is finding the balance between enjoyable content and slow progression. Too slow, and players lose interest, too fast, and you're not able to dish out enough content in time to keep people entertained. Abyssea tipped that balance way into the latter category. It's as if the development team forgot what most gamers, especially online gamers, are like. They plow through content. Just a few weeks after Heroes of Abyssea was released, all the mobs in there have already been defeated, more than once. Three months after it was released, many HNMLS have quit for good, because they had all Empyreans finished and every piece of gear they wanted. And for casual players it only took longer (and not much, because they're getting the hang of it as well.

    In short, Abyssea removed a large chunk of the hardcore players from FFXI. However, those players were the ones who were able to deal with real content better, which is why now everyone complains about Voidwatch. It's very hard to go back to "normal" FFXI, after Abyssea, which was FFXI on ecstasy. And I'm not sure if people will ever be able to recover.

    Old FFXI had it right. You may have considered it too slow, or too hard, or whatever, but thankfully what you think doesn't count, only numbers count. And in the decade that FFXI existed, never have more people quit than after Abyssea was released. Maybe some people will return some time from now, but a large part of the damage is done. We'll see what will become of this game, but whatever you wanna think, Abyssea was a bad move on SE's part (and they know it, as you can see).

    About the interview... I'm quite surprised SE admitted this. Honestly, I wasn't even sure if they even knew what was going on. But kudos to them for saying it like it is, let's hope they get back in gear to give us real content.

    Also, shut up:
    Exactly! Abyssea is pretty much why I gave up on FFXI.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kylani View Post
    Exactly! Abyssea is pretty much why I gave up on FFXI.
    Abyssea is what brought me to feeling FFXI does have an end, whereas before it didnt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ruzoko View Post
    Abyssea is what brought me to feeling FFXI does have an end, whereas before it didnt.
    I feel the same way somewhat, but as most would say on this thread, abyssea revolutionized everything in final fantasy, not replaces and made all of the content obsolete.

    No instead we get people mentioning other content has augments, most augments up to now, (Not future augments as i know someone will retard read this and try to mention future shit that isnt out) Hardly any of them compare to abyssea gear, so why even do the content if the gear isnt to par, its become a 'do that event til you get that piece then we ditch it and go back to abyssea' Yeah sorry no, thats plain as day, do some searches to old content areas if you want to contest that fact. and if people are really ganna use the 'it helped me maintain life and enjoy the game without the time sinks' then you have or had some extreme issues and shouldnt be on an MMO in the first place if you have heavy time constraints.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Winrie View Post
    I feel the same way somewhat, but as most would say on this thread, abyssea revolutionized everything in final fantasy, not replaces and made all of the content obsolete.

    No instead we get people mentioning other content has augments, most augments up to now, (Not future augments as i know someone will retard read this and try to mention future shit that isnt out) Hardly any of them compare to abyssea gear, so why even do the content if the gear isnt to par, its become a 'do that event til you get that piece then we ditch it and go back to abyssea' Yeah sorry no, thats plain as day, do some searches to old content areas if you want to contest that fact. and if people are really ganna use the 'it helped me maintain life and enjoy the game without the time sinks' then you have or had some extreme issues and shouldnt be on an MMO in the first place if you have heavy time constraints.
    Definately agree with this, if you dont have the time for the game dont play it, for those of us who had some time to spare to ffxi this new era of do whatever whenever killed what ffxi used to be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Winrie View Post
    I feel the same way somewhat, but as most would say on this thread, abyssea revolutionized everything in final fantasy, not replaces and made all of the content obsolete.

    No instead we get people mentioning other content has augments, most augments up to now, (Not future augments as i know someone will retard read this and try to mention future shit that isnt out)
    The +5 Nyzul gear may not be "out" but it is in the dats on the test client and it blows Abyssea gear out of the water.

    Askar Korazin +5 - DEF70 +16 STR ATK+5% (Limit+50) CritHitDamageUP+15% DoubleAttackDmgUp+15% Set Bonus: Occasionally annuls severe damage taken

    Denali Jacket +5 - DEF63 ACC+12 Haste+4 Doubleattack +3% Trippleattack+3% Quadrupleattack+3% Set Bonus: Occasionally deal severe damage.

    Goliard Saio +5 - DEF53 INT+9 MND+9 CHR+9 Macc+15 Mab+8 Mdb+8 Enmity-10 Set bonus: Occasionally negates enmity.


    So yeah.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atomic_Skull View Post
    The +5 Nyzul gear may not be "out" but it is in the dats on the test client and it blows Abyssea gear out of the water.

    Askar Korazin +5 - DEF70 +16 STR ATK+5% (Limit+50) CritHitDamageUP+15% DoubleAttackDmgUp+15% Set Bonus: Occasionally annuls severe damage taken

    Denali Jacket +5 - DEF63 ACC+12 Haste+4 Doubleattack +3% Trippleattack+3% Quadrupleattack+3% Set Bonus: Occasionally deal severe damage.

    Goliard Saio +5 - DEF53 INT+9 MND+9 CHR+9 Macc+15 Mab+8 Mdb+8 Enmity-10 Set bonus: Occasionally negates enmity.


    So yeah.
    It's still no info how to obtain that, but with 5 step to upgrade, I will not wonder that it's will take long long (may year to make it that far - if lucky, may many years - if not, or may impossible to obtain for some player if it's need 18 ppl alli and kill some nm hundred time repeatly and hope that you win lotto this round). since now someone try bring back old days of FFXI when you need to do everything repeatly again and again, so he can just rest well during see player dance with pain on obtain it.
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