WSNM quest giver wont give WSNM before af1 completed and my weapons are 300+ skill

[Concerned4FFxi]

And to round off: "the af3+2 body is far superior on damage per hit" - what exactly is that supposed to mean?? We are talking a piece of armour here, not a weapon.

Real cute, acting like you don’t know what I’m talking about. Why was Kirin’s Osode so popular, because the +10 all stats affects damage output, but you already know that so stop acting like you don‘t understand me. Let’s look at some of the gear’s stats that are for tp/damage.

AF1+1 body
+5 Dex, -5% DW

AF3+2 body
+12Str/Dex, Acc +17, Attack +17, Crit hit rate +5% (set bonus occ extra attack)

I agree, AF1+1 you will tp faster, do WS slightly faster, that is a given. What I said in my previous post is I like af3+2 better, it hits harder and with the set bonus I feel it’s better because it can tp almost as fast, but with the added bonuses that it offers I feel it wins out over af1 body. You can’t say that an extra 7Dex and 5% crit hit, 17 acc and 17 Attack doesn’t increase your damage per hit over af1. Also, despite the math which was done for tp purpose, where’s the math that covers crit hit rate comparison and over all damage vs. the two sets. Af3+2 does more damage per hit, over time that slight tp bonus advantage you get from swinging a little faster on af1 isn’t the same. I’m hitting harder every swing, I’m criting more often, and if I’m tanking I have augmented Migawari, which let’s face it that is needed more than non augmented version. Again, your twisting my post when it’s clearly stated a non-augmented Migawari isn’t going to save you from dot, or anything that stripped your shadows and hits you while your recasting shadows. An augmented Migawari has a much better survival rate.

Actually - please do tell me what kind of AOE spell/move can 1shot or nearly 1shot a nin without migawari, because I can only think of self destruct and I don't know a single hnm which does that... So I would really like to know which HNM you are talking about in the above quote.

Lol, again, you know what I’m talking about here stop playing, I can pull four nm right off the top of my head.

Indrik:
Scintillant Lance - Powerful conal, magical light damage. Damage rises with each use of
Damsel Memento

Assailer Chariot:
Discoid - Magical AoE damage dealing half of the total damage inflicted to it since the last time Discoid was used and it is used rather quickly from the readying stance.

Glavoid:
Disgorge - Conal Earth damage based on amount of HP drained by Gorge and amount of HP healed. Can be used without having successfully used Gorge prior.

Khimaira Family:
Plague Swipe - Delivers a threefold attack in a cone effect behind user. Additional effect: Bio + Plague

Conclusion: From what I stated about having more Crit hits, and not fighting trash mobs, where the acc is needed such as HNM in the future, outside abyssea where stats on gear matters and acc isn‘t capped, some VW NM even, I prefer Af3+2 for tp body. I agree AF1 may get you to 100tp faster if your fighting low acc mobs, or in abyssea where stats on gear doesn’t mean as much, but I like the bonus of the af3 set and the stats on the af3+2 body better. If, I’m using af1+1 body, and I miss 1-2 hits on a HNM, then it is inferior in tp gain to af3+2 body, as well as the stat difference I already discussed.

So think about, AF3+2 hits harder, and on higher eva mobs, hits and crits more often, and does more damage per hit due to critting more often, the +12str and the superior +7dex compared to its af1 counter part, what’s not to like. I think both sets have their uses, I prefer AF3+2 body, the argument for nin af1 body to me isn’t strong enough for me to carry it.

Maybe I’ll change my mind someday, the same time you acknowledge some of my points perhaps. If af1+2 body has -10% DW, then I will reconsider, as it stands now it’s not on my list because -5%DW in the body slot, for already low delay weapons, with an already high dw trait from the job, and already using suppa earring, isn’t enough for me to trade up from my af3+2 body with it‘s superior stats in that slot.

However, this was a bug thread that got turned into an AF body debate. Please note your attitude towards me here previously, and in the future try not to be so critical (pun intended, get it, af3+2, has higher crit hit rate, lol) when commenting, thank you.