Are We Wasting Our Time?

[Karumac]

Looks to me like people have been confusing opinion polls for votes.

[Zerich]

I know this isn't the first time SE has been accused of favoritism on this forum, but I feel like this needs to be discussed. I think we definitely deserve an explanation for this:

BST Poll: Vote for which jug you would like to be implemented.

This vote was introduced in both the Japanese and English forums in running threads.

The Japanese thread.
Where it was introduced on page eleven and voting continued until page eighteen.
(seven pages of votes)

The English thread.
Where it was introduced on page eight and voting continued until page fifty-two.
(forty-four pages of votes)


Somehow, the Japanese favorite (Hippogryph) won over the English favorite (Scorpion).

44 English pages versus 7 Japanese pages, yet their vote won out.






Are we just talking to a wall here, where SE is inside talking to its Japanese players on the other side?

Of course, they only have their Japanese language fans/player-base in favor. I think their "official youtube" says it all.

[Insaniac]

I was just looking at that. WTF is fellow TV? I hope that is some fan produced thing cause if they are spending dev money on that garbage someone needs to burned at the stake.

[Koroma]

I voted for ruszor i was quite surprised it didnt win im guessing not enough ppl have fought a real ruszor (lolsedna dosent count) but seeing as the vote didnt matter guess it was for the best.

[Sharnak]

I suggest to Mod, next time you want player to vote, PLEASE MAKE POLL TOPICS! that make everyone any lanauge can vote on the same poll.
and limited it 1 vote per 1 account that will reflex real need form all player all server, since we any lanauge all play on same server so it's mostly fair to just use same poll. so it's will be fair play, not just say "since group 1 want A, group 2 want B, group 3 want C, group 4 want A so is A win", no matter how many vote was count in each group... since 1+4 may only total 20 vote for all and B may 150 vote... and you hope ppl who vote for B will just accept...

Actually i'm not vote for Scrop, i vote for ruzor, and I think Hippo is not bad at all form i try, but i think it's just not fair to use this way to poll.

[Xpress]

Final Fantasy XIV < $$$ < Final Fantasy XI < JP Forums < US Forums.

I agree with this priority and its BS. FFXIV is still crap and if they were to do a overhaul of anything it should be FFXIV should just be new area's for FFXI. Like an upgrade and or expantion into one game that needs to be unlocked and not used by PS2 players. Either way I'm sure with the number of responses that come from the english forums this game should cater to NA over any other region. I barley see JP players on anymore (at least in Valefor) And im on normally during JP primetime playing.

[Alhanelem]

I agree with this priority and its BS. FFXIV is still crap and if they were to do a overhaul of anything it should be FFXIV should just be new area's for FFXI. Like an upgrade and or expantion into one game that needs to be unlocked and not used by PS2 players. Either way I'm sure with the number of responses that come from the english forums this game should cater to NA over any other region. I barley see JP players on anymore (at least in Valefor) And im on normally during JP primetime playing.

FFXIV is still crap

It's really not still crap, it has greatly improved and is still improving, just like FFXI. Play FFXI at its japanese launch, I guarantee you'd have found it crap.

Wow, when did we become so entitled, anyway? You're asking SE to prioritize you over its own market where it's based? And who would have thunk that fans of FFXI would want them to prioritize their game over some other game? This is a totally, TOTALLY unbiased, reasonable viewpoint...

Square Enix is a Japanese company. Why should they prioritize us over their own people? In all actuality, nobody should be prioritized, we should all be treated equally.

[Greatguardian]

Hurrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

ITT: Bias in feedback is bad.

[Alhanelem]

Hurrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

ITT: Bias in feedback is bad.

Derrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrp

Yes, bias in feedback IS bad. Apparently we think we're better than the Japanese, for no reason in particular. What we want is what matters and what they want doesn't.

As someone who is normally quite objective, I'm suprised to see you make such a silly and irrelevant comment.

[Greatguardian]

You're skipping steps. Bias in feedback is fine. It's something statisticians and marketing professionals who are worth half a crap already account for when compiling market data. Trying to remove your bias as a member of a polled market actually makes them overcompensate in their data and assume people are happy where they are not.

The issue is not one of perceived superiority, but rather one of perceived partiality. Companies have to make a conscious decision concerning their image when they do things like this. It's not unreasonable for an ancillary (though powerful) market to be upset when they are being treated inequitably by development staff. Do they necessarily have to care? Nah. But that doesn't make it unreasonable for people to be upset. People have every reason to be upset, and if SE's marketing division has any idea what they're doing (I know, they really really don't, but pretend they do), then they'd have already accounted for people being upset before making the decision and chose to proceed with it anyways.