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    Player Sharnak's Avatar
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    I suggest to Mod, next time you want player to vote, PLEASE MAKE POLL TOPICS! that make everyone any lanauge can vote on the same poll.
    and limited it 1 vote per 1 account that will reflex real need form all player all server, since we any lanauge all play on same server so it's mostly fair to just use same poll. so it's will be fair play, not just say "since group 1 want A, group 2 want B, group 3 want C, group 4 want A so is A win", no matter how many vote was count in each group... since 1+4 may only total 20 vote for all and B may 150 vote... and you hope ppl who vote for B will just accept...

    Actually i'm not vote for Scrop, i vote for ruzor, and I think Hippo is not bad at all form i try, but i think it's just not fair to use this way to poll.
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    Hurrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

    ITT: Bias in feedback is bad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greatguardian View Post
    Hurrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

    ITT: Bias in feedback is bad.
    Derrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrp

    Yes, bias in feedback IS bad. Apparently we think we're better than the Japanese, for no reason in particular. What we want is what matters and what they want doesn't.

    As someone who is normally quite objective, I'm suprised to see you make such a silly and irrelevant comment.
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    You're skipping steps. Bias in feedback is fine. It's something statisticians and marketing professionals who are worth half a crap already account for when compiling market data. Trying to remove your bias as a member of a polled market actually makes them overcompensate in their data and assume people are happy where they are not.

    The issue is not one of perceived superiority, but rather one of perceived partiality. Companies have to make a conscious decision concerning their image when they do things like this. It's not unreasonable for an ancillary (though powerful) market to be upset when they are being treated inequitably by development staff. Do they necessarily have to care? Nah. But that doesn't make it unreasonable for people to be upset. People have every reason to be upset, and if SE's marketing division has any idea what they're doing (I know, they really really don't, but pretend they do), then they'd have already accounted for people being upset before making the decision and chose to proceed with it anyways.
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    but rather one of perceived partiality.
    Right, but whether or not the percieved partiality is accurate or not, people want them to be partial to us instead of partial to their own home market.

    Instead of wanting them to be partial to us or them, people should be wanting it to be fair and equal. I don't have a problem with people being upset, but you ask for equality, not inverse discrimination.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    Right, but whether or not the percieved partiality is accurate or not, people want them to be partial to us instead of partial to their own home market.

    Instead of wanting them to be partial to us or them, people should be wanting it to be fair and equal. I don't have a problem with people being upset, but you ask for equality, not inverse discrimination.
    I don't see any of that in the OP or in the conversations in this thread I partook in. The reason for this thread's creation was due to an imbalance, rather than wanting the balance in our favor. Voting is all fine and dandy. Ignoring votes gets people upset. I doubt most people here want SE to turn around and ignore the JP base. I certainly don't. But if they're going to ask for an international poll, I'd appreciate it if they did us the courtesy of counting our results.
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    Player Alhanelem's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greatguardian View Post
    I don't see any of that in the OP or in the conversations in this thread I partook in. The reason for this thread's creation was due to an imbalance, rather than wanting the balance in our favor. Voting is all fine and dandy. Ignoring votes gets people upset. I doubt most people here want SE to turn around and ignore the JP base. I certainly don't. But if they're going to ask for an international poll, I'd appreciate it if they did us the courtesy of counting our results.
    I was more specifically nodding at the post saying that we should be a higher priority than the Japanese. I agree that the voting should have been conducted equitably.
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