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    Player Tohihroyu's Avatar
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    As I put in a drk topic:

    英語プレーヤーは電機子です!あなたの愚かな質問には答えれることはありません! w

    (|Japanese|) only.
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    Sorry but thats how it seems to be, the Japanese will always be preferred over English speaking players, thank you xenophobia.


    Yeah when I saw the results I was surprised since the scorp got lots of votes (it would make a great DD pet) but not surprised when I learned that Hippo won cause of the jp players...

    Also its not like jp favoritism is new, its been like that since day one of the game and i wouldn t be surprised that ithey wouldn t give a sh*t if all their NA/EU playerbase quit...they d still keep the game running for the japanese and laugh.
    And THAT would be when they actually open up those unknown but always talked about areas. "ps2 rimitations" my ass.
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    Player Yarly's Avatar
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    you're wasting your time. now you know, what are you going to do about it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ash View Post
    i wouldn t be surprised that ithey wouldn t give a sh*t if all their NA/EU playerbase quit
    why don't you quit then?
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    Last edited by Yarly; 10-16-2011 at 07:01 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yarly View Post
    you're wasting your time. now you know, what are you going to do about it?
    Have several thousand protesters in Port Jeuno?
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    Player Babekeke's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by MDenham View Post
    Have several thousand protesters in Port Jeuno?
    While all the JP players run around having fun without us... I suppose /sh and /yell spam FTW?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Babekeke View Post
    While all the JP players run around having fun without us... I suppose /sh and /yell spam FTW?
    Eh, more than 750 people in the same zone is enough to cause stability problems (hence the 750-people-in-Besieged limit), so they'd definitely wonder what was going on if a third of the server (or more, but I'm going off the ~2700 I normally see at most times of day for Asura) was in Port Jeuno for no reason they can see.
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    Player Shibayama's Avatar
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    I'm not entirely sure of what the point of these "Ohh why waste yer time complaining about it" posts - bcause something is very clearly wrong and has been for a long time and something needs to be done about it - it would be one thing entirely (though its own problem) were we not asked at all for our feedback but one too many times feedback is asked for and then guess whose ideas are picked? It does not matter if we are or are not on more than the JP - we are a large enough majority that we have community reps assigned for us, asking for our feedback.

    And trust me - the japanese never have fun with anything they consider work like ffxi - I work for them.
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    Player Selzak's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yarly View Post
    you're wasting your time. now you know, what are you going to do about it?
    Try to inform as many people as I can so we become loud enough to be heard, thus requiring them to acknowledge us the way that they should be already.


    I don't expect my opinion to matter more than Japanese players', but I also don't expect 7 pages of Japanese players' opinions to matter more than 44 pages of English-speaking players' opinions.

    Our ideas, suggestions, and certainly our votes should count just as much as theirs- or at the very least even be considered in the first place.
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    Last edited by Selzak; 10-16-2011 at 01:50 PM.

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    Player Arcon's Avatar
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    I have an idea. Let's all suggest all our votes or ideas on the JP boards, by translating them with Google. Just make a post in English, Google translate it and post. I'm all for it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arcon View Post
    I have an idea. Let's all suggest all our votes or ideas on the JP boards, by translating them with Google. Just make a post in English, Google translate it and post. I'm all for it.
    This is a joke right? I seriously suggest you translate whatever you "translate" into Japanese back into English before posting it to understand what kind of nonsense you are going to spout.

    The development team doesn't speak much (if any) English. Everything from non Japanese speaking players has to be translated by a person before they can understand it. This is time consuming process and honestly a waste of resources.

    Also the vote count is meaningless. The reasons behind a decision matter more than an actual vote count. What's wrong with a Hyppoglyph. I think it makes more sense than a Scorpion.
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    Last edited by Laraul; 10-16-2011 at 03:18 PM.

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    Player Arcon's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowsong View Post
    People need to stop acting like they are entitled to equal treatment. This isnt the US Supreme Court, its a video game THEY OWN and can do anything they want with. SE is allowed to be as racist or fair as it wants.
    Of course they are. No one is saying we should sue them. But it's a retarded business decision on their part, and we don't have to be happy about it. These forums are for feedback, and that's why this is exactly the right place to bring this up.

    Quote Originally Posted by Laraul View Post
    This is a joke right? I seriously suggest you translate whatever you "translate" into Japanese back into English before posting it to understand what kind of nonsense you are going to spout.
    Yeah, that was kinda the point. Spam nonsense in their forums that they'll have to deal with, just to waste their time. It's the most logical course of action. Duh.

    Quote Originally Posted by Laraul View Post
    Also the vote count is meaningless. The reasons behind a decision matter more than an actual vote count. What's wrong with a Hyppoglyph. I think it makes more sense than a Scorpion.
    Fortunately what you think isn't worth giving two shits about. The issue is, that they disguised it as a vote. They honestly asked for our opinion. And they got it and ignored it. And the example in the OP is only one of many, although it shows quite nicely how little of a fuck SE actually gives.

    If they said "fuck the playerbase, we know best" no one would be complaining. At all. A company makes games, there's nothing unusual about that. It's SE wasting our time by asking our opinion, then lying about it mattering which upsets us. They created this forum for feedback, yet ignore almost all of it. They repeatedly ask for polls, yet ignore the results of those. Another nice example is whether or not the level cap should be raised to 100 or 99. They went with 99, which I personally voted for, but the outcome of the vote was clearly saying otherwise. At least in the English forums. Then they come up with a bullshit excuse why our vote didn't matter ("because you considered the abilities you get from 50 sub instead of the level itself"), and instead of giving us another vote, they just discarded it and took the Japanese results.

    It's not their way of designing games which we question, but their lie about giving us a vote in the matter. If they simply shut us out and did their own thing, or reserved forums for bug reports alone, no one would be bitching here. But this is very much bitch-worthy.
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    FFXI: Leviathan > Arcon
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