lolRelic Weapon? SE what have you done?

[Rambus]

I forgot they reduced the cost of alexandrite for those but yeah 30k is still a lot considering they don't drop off of just any mob regularly..
The mythic ive seen is the BRD dagger and I love what they did with the buffs on it.. which is probably one of the best BRD daggers ive seen out there

not that hard to reppaly songs...

maybe useful when your doing troubadour ES Elegy on mobs but that you need ES on but that is the exent i would call it useful, if it had song + stuff on it then it would qualify as a weapon to get.

stuff like that BRD dagger, RDM sword could have more relevance to their jobs. A convert macro to use a mythic weapon is not funny

[Secondplanet]

There was a few gilshare or currecy share dynamis shells out there, but for every one of of those there was atleast 10 or more that were currency to the leader and everyone else, junky crap that droped, and they were even lucky to even get those scraps.

A dynamis linkshell can share with every AND EACH member in the shell a 100+ currency or 1-3 million profit share a month with 30+ member shells. Including allowing drops to go where ever and to who ever needs them. Thats after all runs hourglass was coverd.

If you were part a dynamsis shell and got nothing but AF gear. Think about this. Were was your 100+ currency a month, or millions of gil?

you have to be my all time hero for coming forth and saying that, This game has made some very ugly players where they would step on their mother's head to get farther then someone else.

I think relic's should be left in the past and stay there, this game was founded on getting new gear to upgrade to and they are even going back on that with synergy for the salvage/limbus etc. gear. The gear is out of date and i don't care how much time you spent getting it, get over it. If you wanted something that would last forever get a ps2 or snes game and a gamegenie and have fun, But to try to bring stuff back from the past or stuff that is now out of date to make the gamers who spend more time in this game in 1 day then i can spend in a week isn't fair.

Considering SE says don't let this game rule your life and to only play for a maximum of 3-4 hrs and take a break is a total FAIL in my books since some things can take much much much longer then that to complete.

[Rambus]

you have to be my all time hero for coming forth and saying that, This game has made some very ugly players where they would step on their mother's head to get farther then someone else.

I think relic's should be left in the past and stay there, this game was founded on getting new gear to upgrade to and they are even going back on that with synergy for the salvage/limbus etc. gear. The gear is out of date and i don't care how much time you spent getting it, get over it. If you wanted something that would last forever get a ps2 or snes game and a gamegenie and have fun, But to try to bring stuff back from the past or stuff that is now out of date to make the gamers who spend more time in this game in 1 day then i can spend in a week isn't fair.

Considering SE says don't let this game rule your life and to only play for a maximum of 3-4 hrs and take a break is a total FAIL in my books since some things can take much much much longer then that to complete.

You are forgetting hes giving wrong information:

do you even have a clue what goes on? how are you going to split 200-1000 coins ( IF CITY!) gl getting coins from dreamland to give 30+ memebers 1-3 million gil?

2 times a week times 4 weeks = 8 mil just for glasses average 400 coins per run ( a bit high end if you ask me)

3200 coins, = 41 600 000 if you assume bronze (13k ea on my server)

33 Mil profit Margin or about 1.1 M per month if i take your 30 memeber number ( and lol at that)

If you mean 30 back when it was 1 Mil per glass that profit spread is even worse since that would 41 M-16M =25 Mil witch is around 833k per member in a 30 memeber shell

do you honestly know whats going on? there was even a point in the game where it was HARD TO BRAKE EVEN , there was a time in the game where glasses where 1 M and you got 5-7k per coin, 8k maybe tops.

It is still hard to brake even on dreamland zones, and a bit lesser exent bastok, people buy those for 4-5k ea atm lol ><.

When you do dreamland you have to assume a loss in gil otherwise you may run out of money in overall planning

running shells is not easy, relics are not easy ( some money hungery small ls that sells off homan and salage gear back in hayday could bring in tons of money may find them easy, or selling AB leech spots and so on)

I also love how people attack relic users and say nothing about mythics, mythics are harder to get and needs more fixing then relics need.

People have stolen NMs in abyssea, MPKed over Shikigami weapon, MPKed over Moldavite earing when I was new, people stolen 100s from shells and so on, I do not see you attacking those people, so why do you insist relic weapon holders deserve it?

Why do you find it ok that mythics are so hard to get and pick on relic holders? I am confused.

[Michaeluk]

It's jealousy, been a relic and a empy holder take it from me the relic was the harder to make and should be the number one weapon, half of these people posting against relics are just fools who would never get one and are just to damn lazy to work for the gil to get a relic, so they get easy mode emps and then demand they stay the best weapon.

I tell you something these so called casual players make me sick.

[Secondplanet]

It's jealousy, been a relic and a empy holder take it from me the relic was the harder to make and should be the number one weapon, half of these people posting against relics are just fools who would never get one and are just to damn lazy to work for the gil to get a relic, so they get easy mode emps and then demand they stay the best weapon.

I tell you something these so called casual players make me sick.

Wow you are the true point of what most people hate, those who think since they have no life and live on the game and then bad mouth those who have a different perspective of the game, you are the elitest that most players make fun of. Yes Mythic weapons are hard to get also but this board was made to talk about relic so thats why i didn't mention it, and as for the emp weapons it nice that SE finally gave every player a chance to get a decent piece of equipment without having to backstab everyone to get it.


I really didn't want to have to say someone has no life or is an elitist but to say casual players makes you sick is just plain sad, so very very sad that you think the game is just for your type.

[Alkalinehoe]

it isn't, never was, i guess its ok for a cure bombing dnc, please for the love of god say you didnt get it for thf

It's junk for DNC with the amount of DA/TA DNC can get now. I'd opt for the +10 DA one if any.

[Henihhi]

This thread goes back to the point that SE totally screwed over a lot of the old faithful players to dumb things down for the newer players. I seriously wonder when SE realizes it had way more players and subscribers when people worked for drops than they do now. The exp things such as exp in Abyssea were desperately needed, I will agree there, but I am desperately hoping the new content will be more rewarding to players who actually like a challenge. And this game is desperately lacking a challenge right about now. People worked hard to get relics, and it is a shame SE made them pretty useless lately.

[Rambus]

It's jealousy, been a relic and a empy holder take it from me the relic was the harder to make and should be the number one weapon, half of these people posting against relics are just fools who would never get one and are just to damn lazy to work for the gil to get a relic, so they get easy mode emps and then demand they stay the best weapon.

I tell you something these so called casual players make me sick.

thank you ! I apparate your post. Maybe my sig will help others to see where i am comming from now ^^ I did it for threads like this since I seen others making relic statments

for those that dont know, there is a forced wait time for both mythics and relics.

mythics make you redo all the assults so thats 50 days

you have to wait almost 2 weeks for relics just because of the trades:
1>2 : JP midnight
2>3: 1 week starting from when you trade it
3>4: 3 and 1/2 days (82 hrs for exact) like 2>3 starts when it gets all the items
4>5: no wait

It's junk for DNC with the amount of DA/TA DNC can get now. I'd opt for the +10 DA one if any.

ahh right, same reason i said it better not be for thf. I'm sure in a pinch the 2-4 occ hit may give more tp for curing but for DDing with occasional cures, I wouldn't touch it. ( I was more talking about spaming cures)

Though I do admit I lack knowledge in the proc rate on it and how much 3-4 times happen to warrant such argument.

[Secondplanet]

I do not mean to pick on those who shed blood sweat and tears to get their gear title's or status in the game but to look down on other players since some endgame players think they are above them isn't right, that is why relic and mythic etc.. carries such bad reputation with them. If there wasn't as many corrupt or greedy LS's out there for these very items they would still have the prestige title that comes with them but alas they don't, when most players see a relic item they think back on how they were stepped on to get someone else theres and automatically resentment sets in.

Its just like the matt cap, back in the day it was a sign of great worth but now its nothing more then a worthless object due to abyssea allowing any/everyone to get all jobs maxed out in a week. I love the trial weapons since they have given me the ability to get a good - perp cost as smn and why should that kind of awesomeness be reserved for only those with the mythic staff for smn?

I would show great respect for anyone able to finish a relic but with the sea of greedy/selfish/backstabbing people out there trying to get theirs its hard to distinguish between those who deserve them and those who took them.

[Hoofy]

I'm glad they got rid of that most unfair unbalanced Relic Weapon crap.

Reic weapons should never have been put in the game and so time consuming

It created alot of elitest that wanted use people for dynamis and give them nothing in return, greed, hate, and alot of arguing text that I could have done without

90% of people who got a relic weapon, either A. Crapped on people to get them, or B. Bought gil to buy currency to get them. SO IM GLAD YOU GOT WHAT YOU DESERVE!

When I would see people with Relic Weapons, I wouldnt go, ohhhh awww its someone uber. I would go, ohhh ahhh an elitist jerk who ripped peoples time off or ohhhh ahhhhh a rich kid who stole his parents credit card.

CONGRATULATIONS, ABOUT TIME SE CRAPPED ON THOSE WHO CRAPPED ON OTHERS.

Wow...really?

You may have some people figured out...but that is not everyone. I never sponsored a dynamis run, never even considered buying gil to finish. Ive always found myself as one of the more outgoing people to play FFXI

Remarks like these only lead to showing how butthurt you really are that you could never finish a relic.

When they released Empryean, I was 90% done with Annihilator, wasn't about to stop. And for the record, I didn't spend almost 2 years and 170mil to have a 2nd rate weapon..especially one out done by two weeks of what lazy people call "hard work"