Add New Jobs to Relic Weapons - Past Due for an Explanation

[Atomic_Skull]

THF PUP MNK RNG and DNC should be able to equip the Grim Cuirass and other heavy armors. There is no reason SE should not do this because DRG used to be restricted to leather and cloth armor and was later moved to plate. In addition there is a lot of mage specific gear with MP and enhancements to spellcasting abilities that these jobs can equip. If they an equip that, then why not heavy armors as well?

[Kimble]

there are plenty of ways you can make up stuff like that. It's a freakin' fantasy world, SE can do whatever it wants.

You'd expect the key representatives of DNC and SCH at least to be using a relic weapon in the crystal war, since there are NPCs wielding the other relics. Adelheid is seen wearing some club in battle. I don't really recognize the model, but it looks unique. The lead NPC in the dancer squad in Pashhow [S] doesn't use a mandau, if I'm recalling correctly. They really wouldn't need to twist the lore much to add in relic weapons for those two. The other three would take more work but they can essentially make up whatever they please.

So whatever you do, don't play the lore card. SE can do whatever they want with the lore. There is lots of lore in the game that doesn't make much sense, especially in WOTG.

Fan Dance

Its SE, they can do whatever they want. Like add DNC and Mandau and change the leader of the DNCs in WoTG to using a Mandau.

You really can't play the "se can do whatever they want card" but then say "SE would never do this"

[Atomic_Skull]

They really wouldn't need to twist the lore much to add in relic weapons for those two. The other three would take more work but they can essentially make up whatever they please.

Mandau's owner in the Crystal War was a Taru THF as described in the Vanadiel Tribune and shown in the cutscene where you receive it from his ghost.

So. What. That's like saying it's unfair for blue mage to use Homam because it didn't exist when Homam came out. That is like saying it's unfair for corsair to even wield Blood/Crimson Cuisses (aka W.Legs)

BLU didn't exist as a player job but one the the NPCs in the cutscene that plays when you get your first piece ot Homam or Nashira is a blue mage, and mentions how researching the biomechanical weapon body part you have turned in will aid in "reviving the light deity" (aka Alexander) This was years before TOAU.

[Briarb19]

THF PUP MNK RNG and DNC should be able to equip the Grim Cuirass and other heavy armors. There is no reason SE should not do this because DRG used to be restricted to leather and cloth armor and was later moved to plate. In addition there is a lot of mage specific gear with MP and enhancements to spellcasting abilities that these jobs can equip. If they an equip that, then why not heavy armors as well?

Seriously, this isn't a topic about the imbalance associated with DNC updates compared to what THFs have gotten, so why are you still here arguing? It's very obvious your only motive in feeling the way you do is based merely on you feeling scorned by the DNC updates and what you feel it has done to THF, but do I really have to repeat that this topic has other jobs in the mix that need to be factored in here? Your last argument where you attempted to blur the clear line here with "armor arguments" was your weakest attempt yet at creating a whole lot of something out of nothing.

The topic is simple one. There are three classes of end game 'top tier' weapons. Five of the game's jobs are limited to only two of them. We're requesting SE fix that. The End. Now please, again, respectfully take this "DNC vs THF updates" topic somewhere else.

[Alhanelem]

Its SE, they can do whatever they want. Like add DNC and Mandau and change the leader of the DNCs in WoTG to using a Mandau.

You really can't play the "se can do whatever they want card" but then say "SE would never do this"

Actually I can. Anyone who's played this game for long enough can discern what things SE is and isn't likely to do. They could change the lore and add new weapons, they could add a giant cake monster that drop train engines which you use to open a cookie and find the magic flute, which summon palm trees until monkeys fall down. Then you beat the monkeys wearing hats because there are monkeys that don't wear hats that help you fight the ones that do wear hats. Then you collect the power orbs they drop and use them to open a chest that holds the Sword of Plot Advancement +2. They could add Ryu from Street Fighter and have him throw hadukens at absolute virtue to beat him. They could have a fight with Altana and you use the master sword with the triforce of courage to summon the monster from the black lagoon to raise your power level over 9000 to be able to win.

The only thing I know for sure is a community rep posted in this thread to say they're not planning to add the new jobs to the relic weapons. That, of course, doesn't prevent them from doing something else if they so wish. That "something else" is about as bout as likely to be my idea as it is anyone elses.

[Kimble]

Actually I can. Anyone who's played this game for long enough can discern what things SE is and isn't likely to do. They could change the lore and add new weapons, they could add a giant cake monster that drop train engines which you use to open a cookie and find the magic flute, which summon palm trees until monkeys fall down. Then you beat the monkeys wearing hats because there are monkeys that don't wear hats that help you fight the ones that do wear hats. Then you collect the power orbs they drop and use them to open a chest that holds the Sword of Plot Advancement +2. They could add Ryu from Street Fighter and have him throw hadukens at absolute virtue to beat him. They could have a fight with Altana and you use the master sword with the triforce of courage to summon the monster from the black lagoon to raise your power level over 9000 to be able to win.

The only thing I know for sure is a community rep posted in this thread to say they're not planning to add the new jobs to the relic weapons. That, of course, doesn't prevent them from doing something else if they so wish. That "something else" is about as bout as likely to be my idea as it is anyone elses.

Oh ok, so you can say what SE can and can't do but anyone else can't Gotcha.

[Alhanelem]

Oh ok, so you can say what SE can and can't do but anyone else can't Gotcha.

No,, you don't gotcha. What did I even say about anyone else in that post except for this:

is about as bout as likely to be my idea as it is anyone elses.

Means think up whatever the hell you want. SE is about as likely to implement it as anything I can think up.

Man, people just can't read today. I'm not dictating what SE can or can't do. I could post the badger badger mushroom mushroom song and somehow you'd interpret it to mean that I think all people who have armor that is colored blue should be banned from the game.

You said it yourself. SE can do whatever they want. Who is disputing this? Not me.

[Byrth]

I'd be much more excited about the possibility of DNC on Mandau if the Attack+35 worked offhand. It may still be a very competitive option without that, but Attack+35 would really make it clearly the best. I'd probably get one.

[Aarahs]

I've heard thfs swear by main twashtar, offhand mandau as incredible, but I haven't personally experienced it.

[Insaniac]

Those THFs may not have noticed that Mandau is nothing more than Delay/Damage when you equip it offhand.