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  1. #111
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    Anyone else noticing that Alhanelem will commonly claim that SE doesn't have the time to introduce peoples more complex ideas that he disagrees with, yet the moment its something he wants, the fact that it would take far longer to create and balance five new weapons than it would to simply adjust the existing ones becomes completely oblivious to him.

    Though while this topic is descending into "SE can do anything they want, they can add multiple Relic daggers" despite evidence they'll do the opposite, I propose the world will end next week because anything is possible. Go ahead and prove me wrong.
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  2. #112
    Player Alhanelem's Avatar
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    Anyone else noticing that Alhanelem
    Nope, I'm not noticing that. I am however noticing you making personal attacks. I also notice you randomly popping into threads to bring this up, even when it hasn't happened in the active discussion.

    I don't really endorse taking any action whatsoever on this topic- but I would rather them make new weapons for the missing jobs that don't suck, then just slap them on the existing ones and call it a day. If SE is going to do something, they should at least do it well and not lazily.
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    Last edited by Alhanelem; 11-04-2011 at 12:23 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Juri_Licious View Post
    SE are Naruto fans.
    No. Please read this.
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  4. #114
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    Nope, I'm not noticing that. I am however noticing you making personal attacks. I also notice you randomly popping into threads to bring this up, even when it hasn't happened in the active discussion.

    I don't really endorse taking any action whatsoever on this topic- but I would rather them make new weapons for the missing jobs that don't suck, then just slap them on the existing ones and call it a day. If SE is going to do something, they should at least do it well and not lazily.
    A personal attack would be "You're an idiot", I was simply observing a trend. And of course it hasn't happened in the active discussion here, you're not exactly going to argue both sides of this topic, are you? I've simply noticed you'll say something isn't worth the developers time in one thread and then claim something else is in another topic despite the fact they've already suggested doing otherwise.

    As for the actual topic, adding completely new Relic weapons is unnecessary, simply a perk for the jobs involved (adding new good Relics for five jobs when something like Summoner and Black Mage are royally screwed), a bonus, and something that is of such little importance that dev time could be better spent in other areas. It's not in any way a bad suggestion, its just that simply sticking new jobs on the current weapons is a far simpler solution. Stop me if this is sounding familiar to you.
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  6. #116
    Player Alhanelem's Avatar
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    It's not in any way a bad suggestion, its just that simply sticking new jobs on the current weapons is a far simpler solution. Stop me if this is sounding familiar to you.
    Simpler, yes, I'll give it that. But simpler isn't always better. We often do simplify our suggestions in the hopes they will be more likely to be implemented (I fully admit I have done this, for example with the title screen resolution enhancement idea), but we shouldn't have to set the bar low.

    (In the case of my noted example, I'd like for all of the textures to be sharpened, not just this one or that one, and I just hoped that by picking on something glaringly bad, it might get some attention)
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    Last edited by Alhanelem; 11-05-2011 at 05:58 AM.

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    Adding new relics certainly wouldn't hurt, but I don't see anything wrong with just adding the new jobs to the existing relics. Yes, many of them are not very strong, so the idea of new ones would be appealing in the sense that the new jobs could have something that is designed more powerful from the start, but SE has given us the impression they will continue to improve them.

    Also, really none of the relics are so powerful specific to their respective jobs that it could be deemed 'unfair' to the new jobs when they're added.
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    I've been on the fence with making a relic cause most dont appeal to me (I dont have PLD or BRD and I dont enjoy dark as much) but if they added COR to gun, id make it in a heart beat.
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  9. #119
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    Personally if anything, I think that new weapons should have been added for the new jobs. New relic armor was added, I don't see why new weapons shouldn't have been. Then that allows the possibility of those jobs getting something built for them (though you never know when it comes to SE...) instead of something made before their existence without their consideration.
    I disagree, really. That would probably be more work to do than just adding the jobs to existing weapons.
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    Player Alhanelem's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Suirieko View Post
    I disagree, really. That would probably be more work to do than just adding the jobs to existing weapons.
    More work, but higher quality result.
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