[dev1035] Are PUPs the only loved ones?

[Byrth]

You'd be wrong. PUP has no purpose in the game. You can use it to solo DC monsters, but what can't you use to solo DC monsters?

Voidwatch? One shade below totally worthless. Oh yay, a damage source that can occasionally proc stuff.
XPing? Not an event anymore. If you don't get all the xp you need just from doing other stuff, you're leveling a new job or doin' it wrong.
Dynamis? No JA procs worth talking about, and no TH.
Abyssea? Can't even proc well in Blunt, let alone magical WSs or magic.
Salvage? Anything + Anything can duo almost every zone. PUP has no particular advantages.
WoE? Puppet recast is too long to be relevant as a pet job. As a melee it has all the same problems as every other melee.

It's worthless. I don't know how I could possibly design an event where it's not worthless.

[Mizuharu]

Voidwatch? One shade below totally worthless. Oh yay, a damage source that can occasionally proc stuff.

Isn't that the case with every job? >.> Well, granted you NEED at least one blm for procing. Three-ish for killing it. But the DDs are just there to proc also along with damage. And PUP can still proc some while doing damage (ya know, like a RNG is there to do damage and then Archery WSs when it pops up.(Leave Marksmanship to the COR. And you will have a COR. Regain rolls are a must for WS procing. /rant))
The Automaton BLM frame gets higher numbers per nuke than a BLM(without a set proc.) And Deactivate wipes the Automaton off the hate list completely. I think it's a good bonus source of hateless damage.

XPing? Not an event anymore. If you don't get all the xp you need just from doing other stuff, you're leveling a new job or doin' it wrong.

Agreed.

Dynamis? No JA procs worth talking about, and no TH.

Do what everyone else does for JA procs; sub DNC.

Abyssea? Can't even proc well in Blunt, let alone magical WSs or magic.

While it's true PUP can't proc magic, a PUP/WAR can do all h2h (save for Asuran Fists), all club (save for Hexa/Black Halo), and (with some staff merits + head gear) can do

Red Lotus Blade (Feast of Swords sword for all jobs)
Seraph Blade (^)
Seraph Strike
Earth Crusher
Sunburst
Raiden Thrust (Halloween Polearm)
Energy Drain
Cyclone

Only missing Jinpu/Koki, Ei, Shadow of Death, and Freezebite.

Salvage? Anything + Anything can duo almost every zone. PUP has no particular advantages.

While anything + rdm/whm/sch can duo "almost" everything, you need a third person anyway to even get access in. PUP/NIN with a proper eva set up is a hell of an evasion tank. And the automaton adds another source of damage.

WoE? Puppet recast is too long to be relevant as a pet job. As a melee it has all the same problems as every other melee.

Again, while it is a 1min wait time, it's the same time cooldown as a SMN's blood pacts (unless they actually use Blood Pact - gear like they're SUPPOSE TO. (I cry for the SMNs now a days fulltiming the same gear ; ; )) PUP does decent in most fluxes. I get about ~9k just Deploy/Deactivate and subbing sch to cure people.

It's worthless. I don't know how I could possibly design an event where it's not worthless.

It's only as worthless as the player wants it to be. Find some career pups instead of all the abyssea burn ones.

[Glamdring]

You'd be wrong. PUP has no purpose in the game. You can use it to solo DC monsters, but what can't you use to solo DC monsters?

Voidwatch? One shade below totally worthless. Oh yay, a damage source that can occasionally proc stuff.
XPing? Not an event anymore. If you don't get all the xp you need just from doing other stuff, you're leveling a new job or doin' it wrong.
Dynamis? No JA procs worth talking about, and no TH.
Abyssea? Can't even proc well in Blunt, let alone magical WSs or magic.
Salvage? Anything + Anything can duo almost every zone. PUP has no particular advantages.
WoE? Puppet recast is too long to be relevant as a pet job. As a melee it has all the same problems as every other melee.

It's worthless. I don't know how I could possibly design an event where it's not worthless.

if you think pup is worthless in WoE you're not playing it right. Rng and BLM do very nice damage, just let the pet do the work and you don't need to Zombie on the master, and we can recall pet at 1 minute intervals, it's not weakend after death, just low on HP. With Whm finally getting a bit smarter we can finally cure decently. Go Pup/war or /dnc to Dynamis with whm or blm pups, proc JA from sub, WS from you and you may magic proc or else heal pt members. Use against any mob that charms (since pets are immune), and unlike bst you have more options than just melee damage and the occasional TP move. Take it to aby, use blm or rdm auto now and build azure and pearl solo easily, then switch to VE or SS and go nuts on damage or use rdm or whm to heal and solo. Use in voidwatch much the same as in Dynamis. Salvage auto owns versus the boss or imps, especially if everyone else will keep their distance on the charmers (although good luck being on the priority list for necessary cells). Take any frame out to GoV, they're all good there.

In fact, the only thing they aren't useful for is spamming AoE.

Pup could always do all that, we do it MUCH better now.