Are We Wasting Our Time?

[Olor]

And that grievance is that who ever is not getting the pet jug they wanted.

No - the grevience is they asked for player feedback, and then ignored all feedback that wasn't from JP region. If you don't want to discuss the issue, please start a new thread about jugs. Thanks.

[deces]

No - the grevience is they asked for player feedback, and then ignored all feedback that wasn't from JP region. If you don't want to discuss the issue, please start a new thread about jugs. Thanks.

I did disscus the issue tyvm. In that if they just gave us the top 5 most voted jugs the problem would be solved. and this whole notion that they dont care about what this or that block of people want is and has been obvious from the start of the game just look at this fourm, take all these questions we post every day and only one or two ever get a response in a week.. and mostly really dumber reponses to an even dumber question at that... Yeah we are all wasting our time is that shocking or something new to anyone?

[Shadowsong]

I'm not surprised that the Dev team does not take the English speaking community seriously. This thread is a perfect example of how most of the forum posters here act. Someone make a thread with sincerity and gets trolled to hell.

I hope for the game sake they never take this community seriously with any suggestions.

No, he made a thread about stupidity. You think critiques are trolling?
"That word, I do not think it means what you think it means"

You post a controvercial topic, you will get this type of reponse no matter what "community" you are in.
But then again, Im just trolling, right?
Welcome to the Internet, where no one cares if you scream

[Camiie]

[QUOTE=deces;214077]I did disscus the issue tyvm. In that if they just gave us the top 5 most voted jugs the problem would be solved. /QUOTE]


The problem will be solved when they don't lie to us anymore. The problem will be solved when they consider every region's input to be just as important as the JP region. You get it now?

[Volkai]

That really doesn't make much sense at all but either way it was 46-2 in the EN forums and 0-20 in the JP forums. 46-22 total.

What about in the French and German forums? Did you tally those votes up?

You don't seem to get it. Look at the thread title. It's a simple question and as accurate as it can be. Why does it matter if they just "considered it" and discarded it, or didn't consider it and discarded it?

Here, let me answer this: You have a chance of influencing decisions when you give your input. NOT a guarantee but a chance. Would you rather give input a hundred times and influence one out of a hundred decisions, or give input zero times and influence zero out of a hundred decisions?

I don't agree with that 'dishonest with us a lot' bit, but I do agree that in this case, it was handled wrong. Why bother asking us if they're not going to factor it in?

What makes you think it wasn't factored in? As previously mentioned, other factors aside from player's votes may have altered the decision.

[Vivik]

No, he made a thread about stupidity. You think critiques are trolling?
"That word, I do not think it means what you think it means"

I didn't say every response was trolling. But there are quite a few. Nice try at taking my words out of context to make your point though. Another "welcome to the internet" for me, right?

[Volkai]

Also, community team response on this topic:

For those of you who voted for scorpion, I understand your disappointment. However, please realize that though this was the number one pick for EN players, this selection was based off of all regions. Also, please keep in mind that the dev. team needs to consider all aspects of potential implementation and therefore has to make the final call themselves.

Trust me when I say that your feedback is not a waste of time and you are not being ignored. I make sure that your opinions are properly conveyed to the development as best as I can and I continue to work with them, following up when necessary, to bring them updates and any new suggestions you have.

[Selzak]

The simple fact of the matter is: you pay a company to provide a service. If you are happy with the service you keep paying. If you are unhappy you can attempt to change it. When a problem has been going on for EIGHT YEARS and theres zero chance of it changing, you quit. This is logic a 7 year old understands.

Oh, so you agree with the thread but you're just one of those types of people.

1. We haven't had an official forum throughout this time.
2. I see this as an opportunity (through the obvious nature of what happened) to have the problem acknowledged.
3. If you think we're just screwed and that they'll never care, why are you arguing with us so much? Do you see the irony in you posting all over this thread arguing that there's no point in us arguing?


Because everyone has been asking, and it's a very valid question:

The French forum didn't have any votes, the German thread had about 1 page of votes and I believe there were four votes for the Hippogryph. The results are the same as has been posted.


So in other words, when Camate said, "Sorry you didn't get the Scorpion guys, but we had to listen to everyone!" he was very off-base and I'm pretty disappointed about that, because I would have expected him (et tu, Bruté?) at least to have a grasp of the situation.

We still have not gotten a satisfactory response to the issue, since no one has acknowledged that there were three other jugs with more overall votes than the Hippogryph. Camate did mention that we weren't being ignored, and as far as he is concerned I believe him- sometimes it's possible to forget that 90% of the "devs" that post here are our busy community rep Camate. I just wish he'd acknowledge the problem we've brought up and answer it- which would really require him bringing it to the development team directly I think.

Apologizing that we didn't get the scorpion since it was the EN winner, pretending like it wasn't the overall winner (it was the hippogryph that only won locally and not overall- yet it was chosen), and treating us like we're just upset that we didn't get what we voted for is very disingenuous.

The issue is that the Japanese players actually got what they voted for locally without out-voting what everyone else wanted. If the Hippogryph would have won overall (and not been fourth), this thread wouldn't exist and no one would really care. Now we have to ask why it happened the way it did.

The question remains:

Why did the development team choose the Japanese favorite despite it being the fourth overall pick? What happened to the three choices that had more overall votes than the hippogryph?

[Eurell]

People keep saying throughout this thread that there may have been other reasons that they didn't choose scorpion. Stuff like its TP moves having to be nerfed and stuff like that. My question would be, why did they let us vote on mobs that they wouldn't implement? This thread is absolutely right, why ask for our votes if they ignore it.

[Shadowsong]

Well according to Cremate it was the other regions as well that were included.
Biggest whoosh ever that the guy screaming unfair treatment didnt consider the European + other forums?