Increase the base Guard proc rate

[Captain]

DD tanks were superior on most mobs before Abyssea was even implemented, it just took people a while to realize this. I have no idea what you think a 'real tank' constitutes. PLDs have a harder time keeping hate and have very mediocre damage output. A MNK can cap PDT and MDT with macros when needed without swapping out there weapon. A PLD might take a little bit less damage (keyboard little), but it's very much worth the trade off.

Ok so on something like Tiamat or Jormungand You're telling me a mnk can straight tank it while taking minimal dmg and keeping hate? And before you try to tell me "WHO FIGHTS JORM DEEEZ DAYS LOL1" these are just examples of difficult monsters which still require or according to you don't require a pld.

[Musahashi]

Ok so on something like Tiamat or Jormungand You're telling me a mnk can straight tank it while taking minimal dmg and keeping hate? And before you try to tell me "WHO FIGHTS JORM DEEEZ DAYS LOL1" these are just examples of difficult monsters which still require or according to you don't require a pld.

Couldn't have said it better myself. It's time more people began to think outside of abyssea.

But think of other instances aswell, like dynamis for example, if your gonna go low-man (6-10 ppl) in dyna, you'll probably want someone with high defense to tank so that you can keep moving without having to wait for the mages to rest.

Abyssea, anything can tank, even mages, comparing anything with abyssea is pointless. Outside of abyssea, exp mobs are not worth comparing anything against, since normal exp mobs that people target, are generally fast, easy kills that yield high exp, so yeah... even thf could tank if they wanted to, but Monk tanking difficult mobs? Yeah... right.

[Protey]

Couldn't have said it better myself. It's time more people began to think outside of abyssea.

But think of other instances aswell, like dynamis for example, if your gonna go low-man (6-10 ppl) in dyna, you'll probably want someone with high defense to tank so that you can keep moving without having to wait for the mages to rest.

Abyssea, anything can tank, even mages, comparing anything with abyssea is pointless. Outside of abyssea, exp mobs are not worth comparing anything against, since normal exp mobs that people target, are generally fast, easy kills that yield high exp, so yeah... even thf could tank if they wanted to, but Monk tanking difficult mobs? Yeah... right.

what do you consider difficult... i've tanked almost everything in sky/sea on mnk (Kirin and JoL not very practical to do so, Kirin since zerg and JoL since have to wait for so many iterations of adds while getting nuked)

as for dyna... cities at least i've lowmanned with like 5 people. rdm with blm sub pulls and procs mnk mobs then sleeps. brd to speed things up and help with sleeps. whm. 2x DD. I remember going with a sam and a drg. mind you this was at level 80 cap. at level 90 it should be even easier. Tank, yea right, just destroy stuff. If your mages need to rest... they suck.

[Loir]

Ok so on something like Tiamat or Jormungand You're telling me a mnk can straight tank it while taking minimal dmg and keeping hate? And before you try to tell me "WHO FIGHTS JORM DEEEZ DAYS LOL1" these are just examples of difficult monsters which still require or according to you don't require a pld.

Tanking tiamat and subsequently jorm is pretty easy as any DD mnk and sam would have no issues. Also thanks to the agi=subtle blow, mnk and most DDs extremely shine on things you would not normally like the TP moves from since it would limit down the spam while still doing tremendous dmg.