new blm spells

[noodles355]

Don't pots drop Thunder IV, not thunder V? Also someone paid 8 mil for thunder V on asura.

[Aver]

Don't pots drop Thunder IV, not thunder V? Also someone paid 8 mil for thunder V on asura.

I have no words to describe the amount of laughter this brought.

[Vivik]

Don't pots drop Thunder IV, not thunder V? Also someone paid 8 mil for thunder V on asura.

Would rather have me some Gaiters.

[Rearden]

Would rather have me some Gaiters.

idk man, I just 3manned Tia and I had to run all the f'ing way out here to do it. I'm selling these gaiters for 15m. Gouge those BLM!!!!

[Sparthos]

Main thing all this shows to me is the influence again of Tanaka and that the game is now firmly moving back to the old ways, rare drops in very limited supply to make sure not everyone will get them. Scrolls and armors are first but endgame will slowly start to shift back to the minority too, I can even now see HNM with disgustingly long windows making a comeback under this new leadership. I laughed at the 1500 plate emp upgrades with minor enhancments too.

FFXI all open access is slowly being phased out, i'm not sure how I feel about the game going back to old ways but I know most people are going to baulk at the game going back to the tiny minory having access to a lot of things, for instance it just used tobe accepted that most people would never ever get certain items...but i'm not sure that will go across well with how they have run XI for the past few years. Also yes I know these BCNM aren't that hard but it is definately a sign of a change in direction for FFXI.

I don't particularly disagree with all of your points but what exactly did people want with these scrolls? A hand out? Then what? Boredom?

If you can do everything in a day, the game becomes a joke. Now sure, the scrolls are being overpriced right now because people are stuck in infinite laziness mode and any modicum of effort is apparently too much to ask but how about putting in the slightest effort before complaining? People are sitting on mountains of kindred crests and what better way for SE to cut down the supply?

As more people do WoE, Voidwatch and KCNMs the price will fall and eventually these scrolls will go into healthy supply when the initial rush is over. All I see in many of the whining posts are people spoonfed on Abyssea to the point where even grouping up with some people or trying new content is just too much.

[Mahoro]

Voidwatch drops are far from rare, and comparing sidegrade-at-best gear with magic scrolls that are pretty necessary to their respective jobs, and the thousands of mages out there that need it, is pretty laughable.

Have you seen the total #'s of AH history for stuff like Akupara Shell, Kholomo Hide, Jingang, Tefnut etc, as well as ALL the special headpieces like Cuauhtli, Hyksos etc? They are "rare" relative to other stuff in this game due to drop rate. Certainly rare relative to WoE drops and the like.

Jingang has been pretty popular, and the fact RMT's haven't moved in and started spamming the Tonberry should give an indication. Any number of lucrative gear pieces have been released in the last year (Neo-Dynamis drops for example) but I have yet to see an army of people with keyboard smash names farming the content.

In any event, the new BLM spells have been confirmed to drop from WoE, Voidwatch, AND BCNM, so the moaning will likely cease as more and more scrolls flood the AH.

[Hayward]

I don't particularly disagree with all of your points but what exactly did people want with these scrolls? A hand out? Then what? Boredom?

If you can do everything in a day, the game becomes a joke. Now sure, the scrolls are being overpriced right now because people are stuck in infinite laziness mode and any modicum of effort is apparently too much to ask but how about putting in the slightest effort before complaining? People are sitting on mountains of kindred crests and what better way for SE to cut down the supply?

As more people do WoE, Voidwatch and KCNMs the price will fall and eventually these scrolls will go into healthy supply when the initial rush is over. All I see in many of the whining posts are people spoonfed on Abyssea to the point where even grouping up with some people or trying new content is just too much.

[Comment deleted by Moderator]. Saying people are "lazy" for wanting these scrolls to be readily available for reasonable prices doesn't make it the case. From what I've read. no one on these threads is suggesting any such thing. Mages/Bards/Ninja will need these spells, and restricting access to them (i.e. artificially limiting their supply) only encourages ne'er-do-wells to jack up prices to near-astronomical levels. That is wrong and you know it. Can anyone really justify posting any kind of scroll for 8 million gil without sounding like an absolute tool (or a Libertarian. You make the call)?

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I'm also leery of the direction S-E is taking post-Abyssea. They seem to be bound and determined to make the same mistakes they made in 2005-6 where it concerns artificial rarity of vital spells.

[Mahoro]

That BG narrative doesn't fly here. Saying people are "lazy" for wanting these scrolls to be readily available for reasonable prices doesn't make it the case. From what I've read. no one on these threads is suggesting any such thing. Mages/Bards/Ninja will need these spells, and restricting access to them (i.e. artificially limiting their supply) only encourages ne'er-do-wells to jack up prices to near-astronomical levels. That is wrong and you know it. Can anyone really justify posting any kind of scroll for 8 million gil without sounding like an absolute tool (or a Libertarian. You make the call)?

As said above, the scrolls have been confirmed to drop from multiple sources. As with all new items, the prices will tank soon enough. Dismissing someone as having BG mentality for suggesting that someone who wants the scrolls early should just go out and DO THE CONTENT from which they drop is overly reductionist, inflammatory, and illogical to boot.

[katiekat]

first off i am not lazy and had you red my question /statement at all you mite had said i don't mind comit being on a
HKNM am mor pissed off that they put thunder V on a HKNM. all the other T V spells can be got off a npc so why not the last one?

am tyerd of people assuming one is lazy just for being anored at sum thing being a pain to get. but then again sum of you saying were lazy are the same that think its 100% cool to have a NM that only 1% of the game can kill so they can lort it over the rest of us how cool they are while they boted a NM.

i don't have a problem with farming spells gear what butters me is when the DEVs do this when its spells that mages will be expected to have and if they don't will be chastised by people that have never leveled the job but "know how to play it"

[Rearden]

2011: You don't have BLM leveled?

That BG narrative doesn't fly here. Saying people are "lazy" for wanting these scrolls to be readily available for reasonable prices doesn't make it the case. From what I've read. no one on these threads is suggesting any such thing. Mages/Bards/Ninja will need these spells, and restricting access to them (i.e. artificially limiting their supply) only encourages ne'er-do-wells to jack up prices to near-astronomical levels. That is wrong and you know it. Can anyone really justify posting any kind of scroll for 8 million gil without sounding like an absolute tool (or a Libertarian. You make the call)?

The same members of that charming society known as BlueGartr who spout this nonsense about "lazy" players are probably the same folks who have endorsed and used every exploit in the book, past and present, to preserve their "elite" status for the least amount of effort.

I'm also leery of the direction S-E is taking post-Abyssea. They seem to be bound and determined to make the same mistakes they made in 2005-6 where it concerns artificial rarity of vital spells.

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