new blm spells

[Monchat]

If you don't like farming kindred crest then farm gil. Whats the problem? In a few weeks the price of scrolls will have normalized to about 1 million per KCNM drops, just like the previous KCNM drops (calmecac leggings etc). Its a great idea to put them from KCNM, it will make money more usefull. Its not like you have to do the KCNM or WoE to get them, they're not rare/ex. Looks like that blizzaja can drop from conflux 6? did a 6 and 5, nothing worth except coins. conflux 7 and up not unlocked here.

Also, making the scrolls this rare only makes it easy for RMT to come in and manipulate the prices for them on the AH.

There we go. People who move their ass out of port jeuno to farm them are RMT ? lol.

[Greatguardian]

Man, those Utsusemi: Ni scrolls sure do screw over Ninjas because they come from BCNMs. What about Refresh and Phalanx? Oh dear, I mean, there's no way any mage is ever going to be able to get those without being ripped off by RMT.

[Rearden]

Nice to see some additional winners from Lakshmi show up

[InspectorGadget]

Oh dear, I mean, there's no way any mage is ever going to be able to get those without being ripped off by RMT.

There we go. People who move their ass out of port jeuno to farm them are RMT ? lol.

Wow, you guys dont know how price manipulation works, do you?

Farm them all you want, whats to stop an RMT from buying them all off the auction house and reselling at a higher price? Happens more often that you think.

Voidwatch drops have been rare and RMT haven't moved in and manipulated those.

Voidwatch drops are far from rare, and comparing sidegrade-at-best gear with magic scrolls that are pretty necessary to their respective jobs, and the thousands of mages out there that need it, is pretty laughable.

[Mahoro]

Voidwatch drops are far from rare, and comparing sidegrade-at-best gear with magic scrolls that are pretty necessary to their respective jobs, and the thousands of mages out there that need it, is pretty laughable.

Have you seen the total #'s of AH history for stuff like Akupara Shell, Kholomo Hide, Jingang, Tefnut etc, as well as ALL the special headpieces like Cuauhtli, Hyksos etc? They are "rare" relative to other stuff in this game due to drop rate. Certainly rare relative to WoE drops and the like.

Jingang has been pretty popular, and the fact RMT's haven't moved in and started spamming the Tonberry should give an indication. Any number of lucrative gear pieces have been released in the last year (Neo-Dynamis drops for example) but I have yet to see an army of people with keyboard smash names farming the content.

In any event, the new BLM spells have been confirmed to drop from WoE, Voidwatch, AND BCNM, so the moaning will likely cease as more and more scrolls flood the AH.

[Greatguardian]

I know that legit players manipulate the market all the time, and that if you were smart you'd do the same. Crying RMT in this day and age is retarded. You pay what you think the item is worth. If people don't believe an item is worth X amount of gil, then they won't buy it. If people are willing to pay more, of course people are going to increase the price on the market.

The scrolls are vital for their respective jobs. But they're not hard to get, either. You can either be a buyer or a seller. If you think you're getting ripped off by the sellers, then stop being a buyer and go do the KCNM and WoE yourself.

[InspectorGadget]

I know that legit players manipulate the market all the time, and that if you were smart you'd do the same. Crying RMT in this day and age is retarded. You pay what you think the item is worth. If people don't believe an item is worth X amount of gil, then they won't buy it. If people are willing to pay more, of course people are going to increase the price on the market.

The scrolls are vital for their respective jobs. But they're not hard to get, either. You can either be a buyer or a seller. If you think you're getting ripped off by the sellers, then stop being a buyer and go do the KCNM and WoE yourself.

In the end, this is why its such a problem. Instead of waiting around for supply and prices to (hopefully) normalize. They couldve just made the new spells readily available to anyone that wants to pay a set amount to an NPC and be done with it. Up to this point we never had to deal with it, so why now?

[Greatguardian]

In the end, this is why its such a problem. Instead of waiting around for supply and prices to (hopefully) normalize. They couldve just made the new spells readily available to anyone that wants to pay a set amount to an NPC and be done with it. Up to this point we never had to deal with it, so why now?

Have you really never looked at Phalanx, Raise III, Refresh, or Utsusemi: Ni? Plenty of powerful spells come from BCNMs or from (previously) powerful NMs. Scorpion Harnesses and Haubergeons used to be exceedingly rare, too, back when D Ingots and V Claws were really hard to find and only dropped off HNM-tier monsters.

People were pissed off when Abyssea made the game easy. Now the Dev team is normalizing things again, and adding in content that isn't a gimme. People should be overjoyed.

[InspectorGadget]

Have you really never looked at Phalanx, Raise III, Refresh, or Utsusemi: Ni? Plenty of powerful spells come from BCNMs or from (previously) powerful NMs. Scorpion Harnesses and Haubergeons used to be exceedingly rare, too, back when D Ingots and V Claws were really hard to find and only dropped off HNM-tier monsters.

People were pissed off when Abyssea made the game easy. Now the Dev team is normalizing things again, and adding in content that isn't a gimme. People should be overjoyed.

Yeah, and who was controlling that market in that area? the RMTs. I'm sure people are glad that they dont have to spend RL money to obtain decent gear in this game anymore.

If people were pissed that Abyssea made the game "too easy", guess what, they can quit the game too. As another person stated in that other blm spell thread, nobodys gonna miss em.

[Michae]

its not so bad that they are dropped from bc fights, I got all my scrolls like refresh, utsu ni and such from the bcnms and its not really that bad. Whats the difference between farming them in aby for a few hrs and go doing bcnms for a few hrs. Meh its nothing to get so worked up over.