Stage2 Ochain/Daudarbla

[Shiyo]

One emp per person? o_O

Also what is a MDK/CC?

[Arcon]

er Markov... this is Stage2 so don't compare Ochain/Daud Stage2 with Stage1 of other empyrean...

You compared first, he only said it's not quite as annoying as some other empyrean trials. And in all honestly, I don't I can't in good conscience disagree with him, as much as I'd like to. Doing both Ochain and Ukon, Glavoid farm and kill annoys me a lot more than VNMs, even if it doesn't take as long if done correctly. Maybe it's also a matter of preference, I'm more of a casual player, and VNMs are a lot easier to approach casually than other empyrean weapons, even if it takes longer (which is a given with a casual approach anyway).

[MarkovChain]

For vnm you can also afk every 10 minutes and for normal empy you generally do it non stop so it's less annoying. For chloris for instance you have a 10 minute NM to kill and you have to proc it. Needless to say, if you didn't bring the correct jobs for 100% proc you are boned. I think it took me and mdk maybe 2 weeks to get both chloris done, not sure. We can farm 75 souls in ~ 1 week with 6 chars.

[Kimble]

is it really that hard to bring a NIN WAR and WHM?

Galvoid and Chloris are really not bad at all to farm. No where near as bad as VNM,

[Shiyo]

I don't see how souls can ever be compared to any other emp weapon path.

It's very easy/simple to farm chloris KI's and glavoid KI's, it simply takes TIME, and there's multiple options to acquire the KI's. For colorless souls, sometimes you can go days without getting many(or any)souls at all, that never happens with any other emp :/

All NM's camped? Np - > Cleave for gold chests

What do you do when all T3 Nm's are camped? Or t2's? You afk...

[Kimble]

I dunno, the T2 in Grauberg is almost always uncamped, even if it it, its usually just people that want seals, lol.

Never really ran into a lot of comp for popping t3s. Even if I did, it was like 1-2 other people and I can just as easily try and pop like they are.

[Arcon]

is it really that hard to bring a NIN WAR and WHM?

Yes.

Galvoid and Chloris are really not bad at all to farm. No where near as bad as VNM,

Your opinion. It takes a lot more effort both to farm and to fight. VNMs is mostly AFK time with a little bit of paying attention every few minutes.

[Masamunai]

I usually camp Koios [...]. Totally eyeballing the upgrade rate to emerald is around 1/4-1/5.

And erm... arenot you raging after seeing other upgraders outclaiming you at popping Koios ? It's in that case when i start thinking "wtf why we fucking can't team up like for seals..."
Gamayun isnot better either: i can solo her with my BST (but takes long time compared to THF on koios) but at grauberg it's not solo campers there is, but generally duos trios, meaning they outclaims you 2-3x more than @ Altepa. Even worse: since they are already duoing/trioing, after getting color change they go right at Maere and you see them again less than 30mins later camping against you on Gamayun...
I didnot try Chione yet but i m guessing it's worse than Koios/Gamayun :s

Btw Thanks Rearden for the link, reading.

[Shiyo]

In the time it takes you to upgrade ONE t1 - > t2 - > t3, you probably could have finished an entire chloris/glavoid pop set <_< If you have multiple people, probably multiple pop sets.

Glavoid and chloris took ~2-3 days to finish, while doing colorless soul trials for an ochain took almost TWO weeks.

[Masamunai]

In the time it takes you to upgrade ONE t1 - > t2 - > t3, you probably could have finished an entire chloris/glavoid pop set <_< If you have multiple people, probably multiple pop sets.

Glavoid and chloris took ~2-3 days to finish, while doing colorless soul trials for an ochain took almost TWO weeks.

Wow that's bit extreme XD but you got the general idea of what i meant /nod.