Why do people hate Hvergelmir?

[Soranika]

I have an LS leader who /tell me on several occasions that he wasn't going to pull the LS to help me get my hvergelmir because it wasn't "useful" to the ls over the last two months, yet mostly through the use of LS and Yamimarikk, I got mine. Why? I'm one of the very few reliable WHM in the LS who turn out to events. Use of the extra body for holding KI and other purposes (like being a dedicated WHM against ones personal choice of job) is fairly more beneficial than an angry WHM who ends up leaving the LS.

In many of these cases, we've helped LS members farm emp weapons for jobs they don't even join the events on so the point is moot.

It shouldn't be about what's useful to the LS to begin with though. It took barely two hours two help a random guy trio dragua for his 90 emp weapon. His goal was 5 scales at least a day. We got him 12. A good pull with just three people if you ask me. LSs for that are about helping each other on a larger scale, especially when many of the key DD already have 85 weapons.

Side note, I've for one found a HUGE use for Hvergelmir in a low man setting helping ls and random members doing things after subbing out MM with Sea Daughter. Regen effect during the day time for avatars? Lovely. Outside abyssea, I'm still trying to find a purpose for it away from solo activities, but might stick with using elemental staves to keep the perp cost away. For SCH... the staff insures you never run out of MP, even with sublimation. Adloquium ftw.

[Kimara]

I have an LS leader who /tell me on several occasions that he wasn't going to pull the LS to help me get my hvergelmir because it wasn't "useful" to the ls over the last two months, yet mostly through the use of LS and Yamimarikk, I got mine. Why? I'm one of the very few reliable WHM in the LS who turn out to events. Use of the extra body for holding KI and other purposes (like being a dedicated WHM against ones personal choice of job) is fairly more beneficial than an angry WHM who ends up leaving the LS.

In many of these cases, we've helped LS members farm emp weapons for jobs they don't even join the events on so the point is moot.

It shouldn't be about what's useful to the LS to begin with though. It took barely two hours two help a random guy trio dragua for his 90 emp weapon. His goal was 5 scales at least a day. We got him 12. A good pull with just three people if you ask me. LSs for that are about helping each other on a larger scale, especially when many of the key DD already have 85 weapons.

Side note, I've for one found a HUGE use for Hvergelmir in a low man setting helping ls and random members doing things after subbing out MM with Sea Daughter. Regen effect during the day time for avatars? Lovely. Outside abyssea, I'm still trying to find a purpose for it away from solo activities, but might stick with using elemental staves to keep the perp cost away. For SCH... the staff insures you never run out of MP, even with sublimation. Adloquium ftw.

Sounds like it's time for a new LS. On a side note though you don't need a whole ls's help to get the staff, or any of the emps for that matter. Most of the mobs you can duo until the level 90 ones, and even some of those are possible to duo.

[Soranika]

Sounds like it's time for a new LS. On a side note though you don't need a whole ls's help to get the staff, or any of the emps for that matter. Most of the mobs you can duo until the level 90 ones, and even some of those are possible to duo.

You're right. I've considered jumping several time, even going to another server since friends quit or went else where but I justified my reason to stay because I got my +2 stuff for 4 jobs fairly quickly (at least I consider it to be) and now it would just be plain inappropriate to now that many of the goals I set when I joined have been met. I dunno...

And you're right. Yet I avoid many pick up/random parties for some very obvious reasons. LSs tend the be the safer, efficient way to get things done if they're well organized instead of dealing with random people or flaky 'friends'. Then again, higher risk of drama and what not in LSs...