Bully: it's really bad.

[Laphine]

Some reasons i think this is a kinda lousy dps increase:

-First, SA/TA contribution to our damage is very low inside abyssea. We can use this JA at best at 66% of SAs (1 precharge + 2). This is only on the start of a big fight or after long waits. 33% performance is more of a rule. So, what's already a small boost gets even smaller.

-If we are not inside abyssea, then we are probably not tanking, which means we can use sa/ta anyways (well, truth be told, we can sa/ta inside or outside, tanking or not, so long there are other melees).

-Outside abyssea sa/ta is meaningful. This JA even at 66% performance is very nice, and it's a great epeen tool to start a fight(if the mob lives the first saws round that is). I don't see many situations where we want to kill as fast as possible anymore tho. We want procs and procs and procs, be it TH or !!. A single SARudra can remove 50% HP or more of a VT demon on neo dyna, this can be bad if we still don't have a !! up.

Anyways, a positive boost is positive, and this sure is groundbreaking for us.

[Karbuncle]

One of the better things i can think of with Voidwatch, Is this also opens up the possibility to SATA a tank. SATA > Rudra's every 3 minutes or so...

That, and if its a Debuff on the Enemy... SAM/THF SA > WS with Overwhelm bonus in Voidwatch. Sexy. It has party oriented buffs too.

[SpankWustler]

On a side note, anyone wanna brainstorm our level 99 Merit choices?

Conspirator Recast - Lowers the recast of Conspirator by 10 seconds.
Despoil Potency - Increases the potency of Despoil effects by 2.
Bully Potency - Increases the intimidation effect of Bully by 2.
Treasure Hunter Increase Rate - Increases the frequency at which Treasure Hunter increases by 1%.
Resist Gravity Potency- You thought it couldn't get any worse, but we made it worse just for you.

[Karbuncle]

Conspirator Recast - Lowers the recast of Conspirator by 10 seconds.
Despoil Potency - Increases the potency of Despoil effects by 2.
Bully Potency - Increases the intimidation effect of Bully by 2.
Treasure Hunter Increase Rate - Increases the frequency at which Treasure Hunter increases by 1%.
Resist Gravity Potency- You thought it couldn't get any worse, but we made it worse just for you.

My original "negative" idea had Despoil Potency.

You know, its sad as we joke, These fake merits are probably the shit we'll get.

[Mirage]

One of the better things i can think of with Voidwatch, Is this also opens up the possibility to SATA a tank. SATA > Rudra's every 3 minutes or so...

That, and if its a Debuff on the Enemy... SAM/THF SA > WS with Overwhelm bonus in Voidwatch. Sexy. It has party oriented buffs too.

If it is a debuff on the enemy and works like that, it also means a different thief's bully could let for example a thief that tanks to perform yet another SA WS right in someones face, or for two thieves to SATA a tank two times each per 3 minutes, 4 if well timed. That's a potential 8 SATAs on a tank in 3 minutes, with just two thieves!

Now if hate just didn't cap so easily...

-edit-
Re-reading Camate's description of it though, it looks like it is a self-buff, rather than a mob debuff. I hope it ends up being a mob debuff, that would benefit thieves, and other players, a lot more.

-edit, again-
Actually I hope the name is changed. The effect seems good now, but I never really thought the name was a good choice. I'm not a native english speaker so I'll let someone else come up with a cool sounding and fancy name. Damned be my limited vocabulary.

[FANCY60]

i think its a start worth having anyhow. thanks SE for once

[Babekeke]

Conspirator Recast - Lowers the recast of Conspirator by 10 seconds.
Despoil Potency - Increases the potency of Despoil effects by 2.
Bully Potency - Increases the intimidation effect of Bully by 2.
Treasure Hunter Increase Rate - Increases the frequency at which Treasure Hunter increases by 1%.
Resist Gravity Potency- You thought it couldn't get any worse, but we made it worse just for you.

And when the Devs skim through the posts looking for ideas for our merits, they just see these and then the sacrasm is lost in translation...

"And people kept quoting them, so they must have liked them!"

[Mirage]

I'd like to merit steal down to 2 minutes, then aura steal would be somewhat useful!

On a more serious note, I'd also like to be able to merit down accomplice and collaborator, to like idk, 2 minutes for accomplice, 30 seconds for collaborator? It is a really nice "SAVE THE MAGE" button when I'm duoing with like a blm or something, and it would be nice if it was usable more often.

[Alpheus]

Given the new effect it's been given i think a more suited name for it would be Bravado.

bra·va·do/brəˈvädō/
Noun: A bold manner or a show of boldness intended to impress or intimidate.

Since it's quite a bold display to be able to SA a mob in it's face

[Laphine]

the japanese name translates to deceive on google. I suppose that's fitting..