Idiocy

[SpankWustler]

Yeah it won't put out whms if rdm and sch get cure 5, I was saying this earlier, there's too many other reasons to take a whm.

The thing that really scares me is that most of the people who argue against this sentiment are White Mages. I can't imagine what they're doing or not doing. While I'm on White Mage, my thoughts could be summarized as, "Hark! I am a God of restoring HP and removing status ailments! Come unto me and be healed, all ye who hit things with things!"

No other job is ever going to add 300+ HP of Stoneskin with Cure V, or have the ability to drop massive cures on more than one person in rapid succession. This isn't even getting into how amazing Esuna can be when the situation is right for it, or the other huge defensive benefits a White Mage provides.

Edit: I want to add that some stuff in this thread is so weird that it just made a dude who exists solely to ask for Summoner buffs to say something not related to Summoner, and for me to agree with him. This thread is bending reality itself through sheer lunacy.

[Saefinn]

Who knows...SE might bring out a job trait or some gear that'll make Cure IV sexy.

[Leonlionheart]

Not to mention they already have a 27% MDT spell, and are getting an additional AoE MDB JA... OH and very potent Bar-spells when they are used correctly.

Say goodbye to the need for MDT gear

[Ank]

Yeah I have no idea what whm's have to be bothered about, they're pretty amazing.

A cure dot spell could be a nice tool but it would have to be at least that strong, regen's just not doing much.

[Olor]

We got Cure IV in the 40s and it's still our highest tier cure. Any job can sub WHM and get this tier, which is sad.

Yeah it is pretty mad that my bst/whm has the same tier of cure as a rdm or a sch. Anyone who doesn't see the problem with that is blind.

[Leonlionheart]

Regen's not bad, but only because it lasts as long as it does.

I think the maximum duration is 1 minute 45 seconds? and can get up to 39hp/tick?

That's 1396 HP total cured, for a small amount of MP compared to Cure VI.

The real drawback is the stupid casting time, where it should be a quick cast spell, it takes like 3 seconds to cast so your party is dead by the time it's done...

[Raksha]

Wow, mine are about 600 HP inside Abyssea (forget outside, I very rarely go as WHM anymore) and I only have 15 items for WHM. No gear swaps at all, just cure potency and MND+. My healing magic skill is way under cap too (level 70~ for a WHM).

WHM can cap cure potecny, SCH can't.

@ people complaining about RDM: imo pb with rdm is not cure V. I barely use cure V on WHM outside of abyssea, really its overkill. A monk ( highest HP job) has about 1800HP. for cure V to cure for max he needs to drop below 700 hp. i just use cure IVs ( for 600 ish) and cure V in emergency, never cure VI.

Yeah that 'emergency' bit is kind of the important part.

[SpankWustler]

I think the maximum duration is 1 minute 45 seconds? and can get up to 39hp/tick?

Regen IV is 39 HP a tick for 75 seconds; assuming the White Mage has regen merits, Cleric's Briault, and Orison Mitts +2.

Regen has not fared well at all recently, with Cure Potency and MP regeneration both sky-rocketing. Which is a shame, since I really liked the line of spells.

[Leonlionheart]

In that case it's 975 HP, which is comparable to a (decent) Cure V, except over time.

Still not horrible, though I wouldn't merit Regen instead of bar potency because of it...

[Ank]

Actually sch could probably get a decent amount out of regen if perpetuance stacks with it, not sure if it does atm. Still stuck with a 5 second cast time and slow cure over that period of time.