Screwed again: Proposed THF job adjustments.

[Karbuncle]

I do kinda feel like they expect us to be just too stupid to realize whats going on.

Maybe we're just understanding it all wrong, and maybe they'll actually do something potentially good with THF? I'm trying not to be too pessimistic.. honest -.-

[DebbieGibson]

I don't understand why the same ability being shared between multiple jobs is a bad thing

[Insaniac]

I don't understand why the same ability being shared between multiple jobs is a bad thing

Read the posts. No one is complaining about DRK getting the ability but SE told us about a month ago that they couldn't lower the timer on aura steal because it would be unbalanced. I highly doubt the recast on this spell is going to be 5 minutes.

[Karbuncle]

I don't understand why the same ability being shared between multiple jobs is a bad thing

What insaniac said!

[Sortis]

Howdy! We spoke to the development team about your feedback on thief and they provided some commentary. The below is a compilation of responses to both the English and Japanese suggestions/feedback. Hopefully it will give you a better idea of what is planned for thief in the future.

With the large amount of job adjustment discussion going on we have A LOT of feedback to sort through, so while this might not answer every single thing being discussed at the moment, we will try our best to update when we can. Likewise, we will be making our rounds to other job related threads as well!

So, without further ado…



By adding attractive items to monsters, we fear that it would be re-creating the scenario from the past regarding beastcoins (stealing and then hiding right after), making this pretty difficult to implement. If there were a good countermeasure for this it could work, but currently revamping or adding items to monsters is quite difficult.



That’s what Aura Steal is for! The effects stolen by Aura Steal are essentially the raw stats that the monster possesses.



We believe making Aura Steal a separate ability would be over-powered. If we did do this, it’s likely that its use on notorious monsters would be removed and it would have even less of an effect than it does now.



Though we haven’t decided if it will be Aura Steal or not, we do have some rough plans for adding some kind of additional effect to Despoil.



We are looking into separating the two. However, we are close to reaching a point where there are too many recast timers going on simultaneously, so this isn't something we can implement right away.



While thieves possess superior stats for all of the above, we do understand your concerns. I apologize that I can’t go into detail about specific abilities, but we are planning to make adjustments so that thieves are really able to shine.



Due to the fact that normal attacks now increase the effects of Treasure Hunter, we chose to forgo the addition of Subtle Blow as a trade off.



Don’t worry, it will be separate!

If you don't want people hiding right after a steal then make the monsters that have really sweet steal items have true sight....>.> correct me if i'm wrong but wouldn't that completely solve that problem?

[Karbuncle]

Get out of here with your logic!

Everyone knows that doesn't work.

[DebbieGibson]

Read the posts. No one is complaining about DRK getting the ability but SE told us about a month ago that they couldn't lower the timer on aura steal because it would be unbalanced. I highly doubt the recast on this spell is going to be 5 minutes.

Probably won't work on NMs

[Karbuncle]

Could be, But doesn't both of BLU's current spells work on NMs? They can be resisted, but I'm almost sure they work. I see no reason DRK's wont... But then again, We won't know until its out.

[Insaniac]

Probably won't work on NMs

You can't use "probably" unless you are basing it on some sort of evidence. There's no reason at all to think this wouldn't work on NMs. Is there any spell/ability in the game that all NMs are just globally immune to? The only thing I can think of is the death effect from zantetsuken.

[DebbieGibson]

You can't use "probably" unless you are basing it on some sort of evidence. There's no reason at all to think this wouldn't work on NMs. Is there any spell/ability in the game that all NMs are just globally immune to? The only thing I can think of is the death effect from zantetsuken.

Evidence is the fact they said if they made aura steal it's own ability it wouldn't work on NMs. So for the drk spell:
A) It will likely have a recast similar to steal.
or
B) It will not work on NMs or have additional restrictions if it's less than 5 mins

edit:
or
C) They don't care since drk is a DD job and therefore its ok for them to steal buffs more often than thf, if they were trying to buff their damage.