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    Player Economizer's Avatar
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    Like I said before, part of the lure of static boosts is that you'd be able to know in advance exactly what you are going for, and roughly when you will get it.

    I'll get enough adventure augmenting my Genbu's Shield to last me a few months, thank you very much. That said, I wish they'd add better non-PLD shields for WHM, our choices at the moment are pretty much Muse Tariqah, or Genbu's. Shoot, the Bloodbead Ecu is the only shield I know of that they added since 75 that White Mage can even wear.

    Sorry about going off topic a tiny bit. The other lure I see with static boosts is being able to visually identify jobs, and roughly what their abilities are. Random augments are better suited to Sky and Salvage gear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Karbuncle View Post
    Soul crushing is fun though!

    Like watching a Rampart spit out 100 Birds instead of your Roc!

    or Watching a Rampart spit out 100 Chigoes instead of a spider!

    FUN! ..........................Yah okay i lied :|
    And I almost believed you too
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    1. Mystics who conjure avatars to fight by their sides, then sit back and enjoy the show while paying close attention to their MP as their minions deliver devastating blows to adversaries and provide aid to allies.
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    Eh, I just feel like we're dooming a system to useless mediocrity by playing the "I want it easy" route, when it has the potential to be exceptional.

    However, In the end i guess it won't matter, if the gear sucks i just won't get it! Either way, I hope they do it right, no matter what path thy chose.

    But somehow, after spelling out to us "Static will suck", I don't expect much from Static upgrades, but if theres 1-2 situational pieces per set, I consider it an accomplishment.
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    Player Razushu's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Karbuncle View Post
    Eh, I just feel like we're dooming a system to useless mediocrity by playing the "I want it easy" route, when it has the potential to be exceptional.

    However, In the end i guess it won't matter, if the gear sucks i just won't get it! Either way, I hope they do it right, no matter what path thy chose.
    Just because it's static doesn't mean it will suck, TotM is a great example of static augments that are very powerful.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Razushu View Post
    Just because it's static doesn't mean it will suck, TotM is a great example of static augments that are very powerful.
    Well, In their original post here (Devs) they said static gear would be weaker (well, they said "With static, you won't get the Augment of your dreams) than Random gear, and Random would have the chance of "The augment of your dreams".

    The thing with toTM is that gear was for the most part, designed for the impending 99 cap, Relic is level 70/75 armor, It would take drastic overhauls to turn the +1 garbage into +2 Niceness.

    I won't hold my breath, Its an assumption, but like i said i feel we might be digging the grave for the system to be mediocre/unused.

    While i'd love to be surprised/shocked by it becoming useable armor (like how the sky/abjuration augments made a lot of the gear really really amazing), I just don't see it being too useful if its "static". Some of the Situational armor will remain situational, while i think the other crap will stay crap.

    Like for instance, I don't see them making Warrior's Lorica anything short of suck, same can be said for pretty much the Entire Warrior's Set, or Lootmonger's relic
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    Static. Adventuring spirit =/= gambling.

    I quite liked the magic candy example. It can be anything. Only 500 of the 501 flavors are different varieties of dog poo.
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    Player Razushu's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Karbuncle View Post
    Well, In their original post here (Devs) they said static gear would be weaker (well, they said "With static, you won't get the Augment of your dreams) than Random gear, and Random would have the chance of "The augment of your dreams".

    The thing with toTM is that gear was for the most part, designed for the impending 99 cap, Relic is level 70/75 armor, It would take drastic overhauls to turn the +1 garbage into +2 Niceness.

    I won't hold my breath, Its an assumption, but like i said i feel we might be digging the grave for the system to be mediocre/unused.
    I just re-read the comment, and all I can say is why would the max possible augment on a static gotta be < than a random augment. The only reason I can think of is to artifically get us to spend longer playing the game lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arcon View Post
    Static. Adventuring spirit =/= gambling.
    Poppycock my good sir!

    Going to farm Empyrean+1 Seals? Gamblin! you have a 1/4 chance it will drop the seal you want! Same can be said for Gold Casket farming for Shoes or Augmented items!

    A lot of things in this game are a gamble, but still fun/adventurous! I think if done right it could be potentially spectacular. It just would need to be done correctly! Almost every NM is a Gamble when you're going for drops too, same can be said with BCNMs, go for Kraken Club lately? I have :O!

    I think if the system was done correctly, again, it could be fun... Its just hard to know when we have so very little information. Use your imaginations!

    Quote Originally Posted by Razushu View Post
    I just re-read the comment, and all I can say is why would the max possible augment on a static gotta be < than a random augment. The only reason I can think of is to artifically get us to spend longer playing the game lol.
    I think their intent was "With Random, we can add the possibility for more powerful augments, and greater varities, but with Static, We have to chose set numbers, and with that there won't be as many possibilities, or potential".

    So with Random, Theres the chance of greatness, with Static, its almost certainly going to be Mediocre, or at the very least less impressive. but to some people, mediocre is okay so long as its easy to obtain? I guess?

    Quote Originally Posted by Neisan_Quetz View Post
    Examples of static vs 'Dream' augments would be nice before telling us to vote on it.
    Yes please
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    Examples of static vs 'Dream' augments would be nice before telling us to vote on it.
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