New SMN JA "Possession" Empowering the "Melee SMN"

[Alhanelem]

So in other wrods you're saying one of our strengths has been taken away by the game being made easier. That's not something we or they really had control over.

[Korpg]

So in other wrods you're saying one of our strengths has been taken away by the game being made easier. That's not something we or they really had control over.

I rather have one of the strengths of one of the jobs here be taken away to make it better for everyone else.

[Dallas]

That's not a bad idea. Even if it is from Dallas.

As a top-tier SMN, I don't frequently make suggestions. I want the minimalist SMN to convince SE to do something completely broken like remove the BP timer without penalty, so that I can burn through my 800MP surplus. That's 5xPC, or 11k DMG per Myrkr, outside of Abyssea. That number jumps to 36k per Myrkr inside Abyssea (9xPC @ 4k DMG per). Think about that speed discussion again... I think this would be enough damage as a result of melee SMN to end this debate forever, don't you?

My suggestion adds a really harsh penalty for pushing my limits. I don't really want that to happen.

[Korpg]

Dallas, can you go 1 post without proclaiming that you are god?

[Malamasala]

True. I'm not saying that SMN only setups will always prevail over other setups, but SMN only setups are generally the most safe routes to take, although now, the risk is very limited, so if anything, SMNs should be complaining that the one thing in a party setup that they excel at has been taken away. Oddly enough, not one SMN has said a word....

One word, greed. People are too greedy for fast kills with high damage jobs to even care if safety is sacrificed. Why should a SMN complain about not being wanted in 18 man SMN burns, when they can get their upgrade items faster with a group of WARs?

[Korpg]

One word, greed. People are too greedy for fast kills with high damage jobs to even care if safety is sacrificed. Why should a SMN complain about not being wanted in 18 man SMN burns, when they can get their upgrade items faster with a group of WARs?

You have no clue as to what I was talking about. Actually, I don't think you have any clue as to what you are talking about either.

[Leonlionheart]

One word, greed. People are too greedy for fast kills with high damage jobs to even care if safety is sacrificed. Why should a SMN complain about not being wanted in 18 man SMN burns, when they can get their upgrade items faster with a group of WARs?

Greed does not equate to efficiency I'm afraid.

That's like saying "Oh, sure I'll take the job at McDonalds"
while also saying, "even though I have this job at Apple lined up"

Conversely, you wouldn't call someone who took the job at Apple instead of McDonalds greedy. There's a way to get what you want faster, and there's a way to get what you want slower. Most people like fast, but if you want to waste 18 people's time, that's your choice.

[Malamasala]

You have no clue as to what I was talking about. Actually, I don't think you have any clue as to what you are talking about either.

I'm pretty sure anyone who wanted a serious discussion would have said "You missed my point, I was talking about...". Good to see you are just trolling as usual though. If you ever feel like having a real discussion, feel free to tell me the point I missed.

In reply to Leonlionheart, I said greed to explain that people who want items prefer faster methods. Apparently you found it offensive, and rather uses the word efficiency. I'll just say "whatever" since the point is that SMNs want things fast.

[Tarage]

As a life long SMN, the idea of making a SMN melee is the worst idea I have ever heard. We are a MAGE class. We don't melee.

[Korpg]

I'm pretty sure anyone who wanted a serious discussion would have said "You missed my point, I was talking about...". Good to see you are just trolling as usual though. If you ever feel like having a real discussion, feel free to tell me the point I missed.

Ok, I'll bite.

You don't know what I was talking about when I said we lost our the most important thing we excel at, which is the ability to kill stuff without risk of dying. We lost that ability when Apoc Atma and Twilight Mail/Helm set came out. Now any noob out there can kill stuff because of the RR on Apoc and that set. Now do you see what I'm talking about?