Screwed again: Proposed THF job adjustments.

[Nebo]

Because THF gets TH, they ALWAYS have a spot in a group.

Salvage.
Nyzul.
HNM.
Sky.
Limbus.
Dynamis.
Abyssea.

Everything.

THF does not have a spot in: any mission fight, any add on fight, any KSNM, BCNM, ENM, ANNM, Voidwatch (that little light fix they added did functionally squat), non-abyssean exp party, etc.

I also don't think that THF, which is also, in a way, a high survivability job, needs too much else.

I disagree:

MNK + Ridiclous Counter rates

DNC + Crazy insane survivability

NIN + Way more survivabiliy options than THF could ever dream of

WAR + PDT/MDT sets

etc.

It seems that SE's "vision" is to have all jobs equally desired, and THF just doesn't have that problem.

Yes it does. When you do abyssea (farming emp weapons items aside), you make sure you have your proc jobs first, and then if you have a slot left over, you get TH6. TH6 is an icing on the cake afterthought, not a prerequisit. You would never sacrafice your weakness triggers to bring TH.

This is what baffles me, TH was never a crazy, OMG WTFBBQ increase to good drops because it scaled right down with those single digit drop rates. With the addition of weakness triggers dramatically increasing drop rates on quality items, it has allowed groups to get better drop rates now than they could could ever get with a THF alone, without a THF in the party at all if need be.

Yes, they stack but if your group is ready to go with everything but yellow triggers....guess who is going BLM/BRD and not THF?

How am I the loot whore specialst when BLM/BRD is better at making empyrean upgrade seals/+2 items drop?

How am I the loot whore specialist when VASTLY superior DD's with way more blue trigger procs can make armor drop better than I can?

How am I the loot whore specialist when a NIN can make Key Items drop much much better than I can?

How am I the Treasure Hunter Specialist when my Treasure Hunter means jack squat for voidwatch events?

I have always felt like the stagger system should have been given to THF in some way and not spread out across all jobs. A good THF would be able to stagger well and consistantly, increasing drop rates for his group. A pink bandwagon abyssea THF, not so good. Now a days...if you have staggers, you really don't even need a THF for drops. Yeah, they stack, but if Yellow can get you 3 of a +2 item, and the mob can't drop more than 3....yeah.

THF is not the go-to "We need you for loot" guy any more. We're 3rd string even for that. As if that wasn't enoough, they gave away the almighty Treasure Hunter itself to two other jobs!

I am sick to death of hearing "You have TH, stop QQ and be happy herp a derp derp."