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  1. #141
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leonlionheart View Post
    You must be a total idiot.

    Find out how defense works before saying its even useful for tanking.

    What WAR in their right mind will ever use a shield?

    Difference in taking damage between no defender and defender: 5~15.

    Difference in taking damage between Dread Spikes and no Dread spikes 100~400.

    Stun TP moves. K.

    Drain cures you a bit. K.

    End discussion.
    /facepalm ..............fucking moron
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zatias View Post
    DRK is a better tank than anyone. LOOK HOW MUCH HATE WE CAN GENERATE OMG!!
    At 75 DRK was a premier tank, now not so much, DDs all cap hate too fast for it to matter.
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  3. #143
    Player Leonlionheart's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dauntless View Post
    /facepalm ..............fucking moron
    I've explained it before, Defense is essentially a completely useless stat.

    You're completely retarded if you think otherwise.
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  4. #144
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    Quote Originally Posted by Korpg View Post
    inb4moderation

    Also, I don't think anyone in their right mind would say that DRK is a better tank than anyone.
    Huh? Dark Knight is an awesome, beast of a tank outside of Abyssea (lolnoCritWS). Has this really never come up on here or FFXIAH before? DRK had replaced PLD at HNM camps on Cerberus as early as late 2009.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dauntless View Post
    We get Drain 1 at level 10. Why shouldn't we get at least Drain 3 by level 99?
    Sorry, Blm is still waiting for Drain 2.
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  6. #146
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    Wow Leonlionheart still thinks he knows what he is talkin about.

    Drain can cure you he says, well if you ever played DRK then you would notice the really long recast time and would find yourself dead before you cast it again. Difference in damage for defender 5~15? I'm sorry we aren't on the same language here I speak "I know what I'm talking about," who knows what your speaking, but if I had to guess your claiming 5-15 damage is all defender saves you right? Well I've used it on my DRK before and got a whole lot more damage reduction than that. Hell maybe you mean per hit and the ability lasts for 5 mins as opposed to the 1 min max our dread spikes has with its capped damage mitigation to 1/2 or HP. So even if you were fighting the slowest attacking nm in the game you'd outdamage mitigate us DRKs.

    Hey look at that someone else brought up shields, hey look at that war has a useful defense ability. You know just because you hate shields doesn't mean that you can't effectively use them, and therefore become a much better tank than you claim war is only capable of. Which once again brings up the bandwagon card, all you do is focus on damage never learning your job or trying to maximize your jobs capabilities, all you want is more damage and faster.

    You know anyone who calls stun and drains defense moves is completely retarded. Stun is a completely situational improvement spell that requires multiple people with it to fully utilize it. Hell if stun had a recast of 15-20 secs you'd have a somewhat valid point but it takes 45 seconds to stun a creature and the effect only lasts 1 second, thats right the message stating stun wore appears before the message stating stun landed, some defensive spell. Drain, dear lord as I've already explained to you so many times that I'm starting to think your brain just can't comprehend anything more than I like shiny damage, drain deals very little damage, it's not affected by magic acc, its damage is completely random, and it has a 1 min recast. Drain 2 is similar to drain except it averages higher damage and can increase ones hp if you drain more than your total hp, cept this doesn't work in abyssea because of cruor buffs. Not to mention thet fact that drain 2 has a 3 min recast time, another thing you'd know if you ever leveled DRK.

    So all in all you think that war and DRK are the same job except that war is better at doing damage and DRK is better at tanking, even tho war has 5 defensive abilities and DRK has 1, 5<1, ok from now on anytime you post something mention that you believe that 5 is less then 1, but be forewarned, unless its a golf forum your gonna get laughed at alot.

    Dauntless you were right. /facepalms all around for having to listen to leonlionhearts crap
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  7. #147
    Player Dauntless's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neisan_Quetz View Post
    Sorry, Blm is still waiting for Drain 2.
    Like you need it.

    DRK got Bio before RDM. Why shouldn't we get Bio 3 before em too?
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  8. #148
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dauntless View Post
    Now on to warrior. Defender, increases your defense by 25%. Doesn't sound too useless to me. Sure as shit more useful than anything DRK has.

    Defense bonus 2. +22 natural defense. Nothing amazing, but again, sure as shit more than anything DRK has.

    Shield Defense bonus. Shield Mastery. C+ Shield rating. Fencer. Hint hint, you can use shield and a one handed weapon. Hint hint.
    You have no clue what a WAR is, do you?

    Defender? Sure, lets cut off 25% of our attack to increase a useless stat by the same % amount. Real great ability to use.....not.

    Defense bonus 2. So what? Defense is a useless stat. Unless you have over 10k defense, you won't see the difference between 1 defense and 9999 defense.

    Shield....yeah, I would really use a shield with my GA. Yeah.....tell a WAR that they can onehand something, why don't you. Oh wait, you did....

    You tell us to not tell you how to do your job, why can't you do the same? Because you got no clue what a WAR is now.

    Our best defensive ability is Retaliation. You know why? It is because it is a counter for your counter, so you can TP while you TP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dauntless View Post
    Like you need it.

    DRK got Bio before RDM. Why shouldn't we get Bio 3 before em too?
    No, just so you don't cast it after I've put Dia 3 on the mob.
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  10. #150
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    Quote Originally Posted by Korpg View Post
    Our best defensive ability is Retaliation. You know why? It is because it is a counter for your counter, so you can TP while you TP.
    I don't understand why DRKs don't like being more defensive then wars

    I guess it hurts their souleater pride, since they are supposed to die more than anyone?

    Personally when I play DRK I enjoy not dying half as much as when I play WAR.
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