Why is Summoner the most ignored, misunderstood and broken job?

[Neonii]

Mala, you need to assume that Myrkr was not an accident. Sure, our new and improved WS deals no damage, but it gives a truckload of MP that allows you to "sit back and enjoy the show." It's a much different view from the top of the food chain.

I hold back. Why? Because my avatar can't keep up. I use a bunch of -enmity to allow my avatar a 60% damage discrepancy. What happens if I can spend more MP to increase my avatar's damage by 60%? I stop holding back and my MP goes up even more.

Everyone hates BP timers, but almost no one values MP management. SE released an emp staff that is 5-7x more powerful than Convert, and yet the loudest voice in these forums argues that MP has no value anymore. I proposed a solution: make SMN more powerful, but make it cost so much mp that only the best SMN can ever achieve it. It's almost like SE reads these forums.

I can't lose. I applaud SE.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/th...l=1#post106169

That would not be cool. Average smn should be able to achieve anything smn has to offer. I don't believe game designers should design anything with a vision to exclude folks. Everyone from the most powerful to the weakest link should have access to smn abilities. Sure for the best smn maybe some token edge but I would not adocate designs especially to exclude folks.

[Razushu]

That would not be cool. Average smn should be able to achieve anything smn has to offer. I don't believe game designers should design anything with a vision to exclude folks. Everyone from the most powerful to the weakest link should have access to smn abilities. Sure for the best smn maybe some token edge but I would not adocate designs especially to exclude folks.

Don't mind Dallas he thinks everyone should act as he does, and will desperatley cling to anything he feels would push someone in the same direction as he's following

[Dallas]

That would not be cool. Average smn should be able to achieve anything smn has to offer. I don't believe game designers should design anything with a vision to exclude folks.

Think of most SMN as a large pile of SAM who never melee, and only use a WS when Meditate is up. It's not SE's fault that the playerbase chooses to be gimp.

Raz, yes, SE made the best staff for the best players.

[Razushu]

Think of most SMN as a large pile of SAM who never melee, and only use a WS when Meditate is up. It's not SE's fault that the playerbase chooses to be gimp.

Raz, yes, SE made the best staff for the best players.

Yeah it's called Nirvana. There's no such thing as a SAM who doesn't melee(unless they're /RNG on something like the ACP boss). That analogy doesn't work as SAM is supposed to melee. If you look at it like this, if a SAM /WHM and insisted they could main heal and should be accepted as such. This is the arguement FOR SMN melee