Comet/Meteor

[Malacite]

It's quite likely that SCH willl get Comet (single Target) while BLM gets Meteor (AoE) and I see nothing wrong with that. I've seen some people calling for Ultima but honestly, that too should really be BLM only. SCH has no business using the epitome of destructive magic, that belongs to the dedicated death-dealer.


As for the White Magic, maybe a spell that directly restores MP or TP? And I don't mean Refresh or Regain, I mean straight up flat amounts of MP & TP given to the target(s). The potential for abuse with a spell like that, even if only for 30 seconds, would be quite high but no more so than a party of 2H DD's zerging with 80% Haste if you think about it...

It's hard to think of any sort of unique buff not presently in the game that SCH could get that wouldn't be infringing on the other support classes.


To the people asking for Mighty Guard - Yeah I got news for you, if anyone's getting that spell it's BLU. Farming that SOB for that spell is going to suck something fierce, but that's another topic.

[OMEGA_HACK]

um...Malacite you do understand that Ultima was Originally WHITE MAGIC, right? (as in the first instance it appeared), from that it has flip-flopped between FF games, sometimes even being non-elemental (not white or black magic) magic damage.

In VI there was Ultima Weapon and Ultima (summon in this case, yet again), then there was an Ultima creature.
FFX you could get Ultima (non-elemental spell) and you could fight the Ultima Weapon (creature in one of those optional areas)
FFVII there was an Ultima Material (one of the most powerful spells in the game) and there was most definitely an Ultima Weapon (creature)

Okay there are 3 references right off the top of my head, so that point isn't really valid. I still believe based on the nature of the spell that it should be reserved for SCH, and nothing will be able to sway me otherwise. It's history has crossed between White and Black Magic, and it makes sense (if SE gives a damn about anything they've created in the past) to make it obtainable when both Light and Dark Magics have reached optimized harmony (Tabla Rasa).

[Malacite]

When has it ever been white magic?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2MBQkB1ZzP4


FF2: Simply says the ultimate magic sealed away by the ancients, but why would something do destructive be considered WHITE MAGIC?!
FF4: BLACK MAGIC
FF6: BLACK MAGIC
FF7: No real label made, but again it's deliberate, offensive magic - e.g. BLACK MAGIC

And it goes on.


The only offensive white magic spells have always been Holy & Dia in offline series. Not ONCE has it ever been shown clearly as "white" magic - nor would that even make any sort of sense.

So, how does your foot taste? If you're going to troll like this, at least learn your stuff. It was also available as an exclusive ability to Ramza in FFT but that wasn't really white magic either (don't think it counted as either technically, as it's considered a Squire ability skill unique to Ramza)

[InfamousDS]

Thinking about Ultima a little harder I've come to the conclusion that we won't be getting the spell "Ultima" as a form of Ultima is already in the game: Proto Ultima and the Ultima from the Airship fight (most everyone already knows this). Ultima can be either a spell or a monster (potentially summonable, depending on game) but there hasn't been an instance of both the spell Ultima and the monster Ultima within the same final fantasy game before.

Can anyone think of such an instance? If not, then it's highly unlikely anything will be getting Ultima as a spell, aside from Summoner, which is even more unlikely.

FF7. Ultima Weapon taught Ultima as the game's version of Blue Magic, iirc.

EDIT: Was beat to the punch in answering.

[Malacite]

You're thinking of Shadowflare (or something like that) where the screen goes white & black and all these black dots appear all over the screen. gimmie a second...


Yeah I thought so. Happens at 5:48 in this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPToOsNLddU


Ultima was a Green materia gotten after the train Huge Materia section in Barret's town. Yeah I know I'm getting my nerd on here, but I own and have beaten all the offline titles several times over.

[Eadieni]

Well the "Comet" in the dats video looks like Meteor that Rani casts. The previous "comet" ended up as the spell Impact from the Twilight Cloak. There are already animations for Comet, as seen from Shinryu and Absolute Virtue and other notorious monsters.

I don't think Scholars will get Comet or Meteor. Comet is a darkness element spell, and is therefore unlikely to be usable exclusively from Tabula Rasa.
As for black mages, I could see meteor being a 2 hour manafont-only ability.
Perhaps even triggering the 2 hour upon being cast. If it's not, it's likely to cost too much MP to use outside of magic bursts, as otherwise there would be no real point to using other -ajas really. Not unrealistic to see it costing over 500 MP

[Zyeriis]

When has it ever been white magic?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2MBQkB1ZzP4


FF2: Simply says the ultimate magic sealed away by the ancients, but why would something do destructive be considered WHITE MAGIC?!
FF4: BLACK MAGIC
FF6: BLACK MAGIC
FF7: No real label made, but again it's deliberate, offensive magic - e.g. BLACK MAGIC

And it goes on.


The only offensive white magic spells have always been Holy & Dia in offline series. Not ONCE has it ever been shown clearly as "white" magic - nor would that even make any sort of sense.

So, how does your foot taste? If you're going to troll like this, at least learn your stuff. It was also available as an exclusive ability to Ramza in FFT but that wasn't really white magic either (don't think it counted as either technically, as it's considered a Squire ability skill unique to Ramza)

http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/U...Tome#Mechanics

[OMEGA_HACK]

Thanks for the link, Zyeriis. Sometimes you just gotta school the schoolers.

[thenewzero]

In VI there was Ultima Weapon and Ultima (summon in this case, yet again), then there was an Ultima creature.

Ultima was a spell in FFVI. It was taught by Ragnarok or the Paladin Shield. But it was definitely a spell, not a summon.

[Alpheus]

There was also FFVIII with Ultima weapon and Ultima the spell, was considerably broken when junctioned to Elem-Def

Although from what I understand I know some ppl choose to forget that VIII exists.