Comet/Meteor

[Raksha]

Odin and Alexander aren't level 99 and like I said these levels and spells are not set in stone.

Odin and Alexander are also expansion rewards. As far as we know this SCH spell won't be.

Also It wouldn't surprise me if SMN got another 2hr only avatar at 99.

[OMEGA_HACK]

lol Malacite as a 90BLM and 90SCH, your in the total wrong ballpark with that assumption, lol... IDEALLY I would like it on both, but that will NEVER happen...

Oh and just to throw a cork in your "destruction must equal black magic" theory; Holy.

And if its been anything more than anything its always been NON ELEMENTAL (even in games where it is "black magic"), meaning your out of BLM's specialty, and into a completely different ballpark; hence again, why it would make perfect sense as a Schema spell for SCH's 2hr.

[Malacite]

lol Malacite as a 90BLM and 90SCH, your in the total wrong ballpark with that assumption, lol... IDEALLY I would like it on both, but that will NEVER happen...

Oh and just to throw a cork in your "destruction must equal black magic" theory; Holy.

And if its been anything more than anything its always been NON ELEMENTAL (even in games where it is "black magic"), meaning your out of BLM's specialty, and into a completely different ballpark; hence again, why it would make perfect sense as a Schema spell for SCH's 2hr.

You've got to be the worst troll ever. Yeah Holy is offensive, it's also primarily for dealing with undead mobs just like Dia was in the older games. Lol, you pick one of the only 2 offensive spells ever made and suddenly there's a hole in my Logic?

Give me one good reason why SCH, a hybrid job that focuses on maximizing white & black magic, should have the "Utlimate destructive magic" spell over BLM. You know, the job who's primary role is to slaughter hordes of enemies. Go on, I'm waiting.

Oh yeah, and "I have a raging hard-on for SCH and am super jealous of BLMs" doesn't count.

[Neisan_Quetz]

Light is not always good, and Holy usually deals damage. Or in the case of FFVII, hates you.

[Tsukino_Kaji]

More then likely the SCH 2hr spells are refering to the tier 5 nukes.

[Tezz]

More then likely the SCH 2hr spells are refering to the tier 5 nukes.

Do you even play FF11?

[Covenant]

Just a question on "ultimate spells" would players be willing to sacrifice their entire MP pool(ala summoners 2 hr) on comet/meteor if damage was significant enough?

I think if SE were to create such a spell ability, then the damage/enimty should be the same formula. Perhaps enimty would be no more than use of the 2 hr only. Could be magic guested also.

[Leonlionheart]

If you look at it this way:

The opening video was the war 20 years ago

Lots of SCH back then, not so much now, where BLM is more abundant.

So all those taru BLM you thought were casting meteor were actually SCH. Even though they looked like they were wearing BLM AF1

[OMEGA_HACK]

Um...undead monsters? I have a WHM friend who deals 800 dmg Holy (which is really good since its basically insta-cast), also if you want to reach it further, it was one of the most powerful spells in FFX (and since Yuna was the easiest to get the dmg break she is usually your first character to deal 10k+ dmg on ALL monster types).

You answer your own question in your question: "focuses on maximizing white and black magic" However you mistype it, SCH's definition should be: Advanced Job that focuses on maximizing white OR black magic, unless of course the Scholar is under the influence of Tabla Rasa wherein both White and Black Magic are optimized to their fullest potentials. Read carefully your own posts, you claim Ultima is the best damage dealing spell in the game? Scholar by definition unlocks the FULL power of these magics, and since Ultima has in the past (this is a non arguable fact) been both White AND Black magic it makes complete since to allow SCH to cast it when they are optimizing BOTH White and Black Magics.

Oh and I'm sure now that you are grasping for straws since you are resorting to unclever and rudimentary quips targeted directly at someone (that person being me at this point). It really shows you lack of knowledge on the matter.

PS: Dia, Banish, Holy, Rela Crystal, Sap, Swap, Ultima, Aero (FF3), Tornado (FF3) all these spells did caused some kind of damage upon a target, some more than others but damage none the less. So I believe that makes more than 2 spells.

[Saefinn]

I'll say I have a raging hard-on for SCH. It's probably obvious to anyone I meet in the game.

I don't think it should step on the toes of BLM, I think it needs its own spells to make it special. However, I don't think SCH should be considered 'weaker' because it uses both schools of magic as I think there's plenty of areas where a SCH can be powerful. An exclusive nuke would be a nice addition, but as long as it didn't crap on BLM. I think SCH's real Magic DD strength shouldn't be in nuking. Nuking should be secondary to its helices - throw a helices to gradually deal a crap load of damage with the choice to throw in nukes in the middle or heal, but for the helix to be the main source of damage. It's how I play the job and I think we should be looking more into SCH's uniqueness not to piggy back off of play styles from other jobs. The reason I love SCH is because it's different, I wouldn't want to see it to become just a cross between BLM and WHM.