Comet/Meteor

[OMEGA_HACK]

At any rate all the counter-points have pretty much been dispeled, it's been a White Magic and there have been multiple times where Ultima (spell) and Ultima (monster) exist in the same game. And again I will state, that makes it the perfect candidate to being the Tabla Rasa only spell (or one of them if there are going to be more than one). BLM just gonna have to get over it, you don't want SCH to have their own spells, and you don't want them to share the same spells...oiye!

[Korpg]

At any rate all the counter-points have pretty much been dispeled, it's been a White Magic and there have been multiple times where Ultima (spell) and Ultima (monster) exist in the same game. And again I will state, that makes it the perfect candidate to being the Tabla Rasa only spell (or one of them if there are going to be more than one). BLM just gonna have to get over it, you don't want SCH to have their own spells, and you don't want them to share the same spells...oiye!

You have your own set of spells, its just that us BLMs and WHMs don't want you to take over ours.

[Malacite]

Ok, ONE game in the series where it's White, and even that's debatable - Yeah it raises spirit, but the article also notes that it functions independently of Spirit and Intelligence. To me that signifies it's in its own class of magic.

It's clearly labeled as black magic in 4 and 6 however, as denoted by the Black icon. In FFX, Ultima is under Lulu's section of the grid. 7 & 8 don't make clear distinctions between the two, but how hard is it to infer that destructive = black magic? Only Kuja could use it in 9, and again, using protective magic to blow up an entire planet? Not very "white".


It could still happen, but I wouldn't go betting on it. As I said before it's BLM's job to rain death & destruction on the enemy, so Ultima is much more fitting for them as a 99 merit or something (or possibly as a spell attached to the 99 Empyrean Staff, which would be cool.). SCH dabbles in that area, but it's not your singular focus/specialization.

It sounds to me like you're just jealous of BLM honestly.

[OMEGA_HACK]

lol Malacite as a 90BLM and 90SCH, your in the total wrong ballpark with that assumption, lol... IDEALLY I would like it on both, but that will NEVER happen...

Oh and just to throw a cork in your "destruction must equal black magic" theory; Holy.

And if its been anything more than anything its always been NON ELEMENTAL (even in games where it is "black magic"), meaning your out of BLM's specialty, and into a completely different ballpark; hence again, why it would make perfect sense as a Schema spell for SCH's 2hr.

[Neisan_Quetz]

Light is not always good, and Holy usually deals damage. Or in the case of FFVII, hates you.

[Tsukino_Kaji]

More then likely the SCH 2hr spells are refering to the tier 5 nukes.

[Covenant]

Just a question on "ultimate spells" would players be willing to sacrifice their entire MP pool(ala summoners 2 hr) on comet/meteor if damage was significant enough?

I think if SE were to create such a spell ability, then the damage/enimty should be the same formula. Perhaps enimty would be no more than use of the 2 hr only. Could be magic guested also.

[Leonlionheart]

If you look at it this way:

The opening video was the war 20 years ago

Lots of SCH back then, not so much now, where BLM is more abundant.

So all those taru BLM you thought were casting meteor were actually SCH. Even though they looked like they were wearing BLM AF1

[Tezz]

More then likely the SCH 2hr spells are refering to the tier 5 nukes.

Do you even play FF11?

[Malacite]

lol Malacite as a 90BLM and 90SCH, your in the total wrong ballpark with that assumption, lol... IDEALLY I would like it on both, but that will NEVER happen...

Oh and just to throw a cork in your "destruction must equal black magic" theory; Holy.

And if its been anything more than anything its always been NON ELEMENTAL (even in games where it is "black magic"), meaning your out of BLM's specialty, and into a completely different ballpark; hence again, why it would make perfect sense as a Schema spell for SCH's 2hr.

You've got to be the worst troll ever. Yeah Holy is offensive, it's also primarily for dealing with undead mobs just like Dia was in the older games. Lol, you pick one of the only 2 offensive spells ever made and suddenly there's a hole in my Logic?

Give me one good reason why SCH, a hybrid job that focuses on maximizing white & black magic, should have the "Utlimate destructive magic" spell over BLM. You know, the job who's primary role is to slaughter hordes of enemies. Go on, I'm waiting.

Oh yeah, and "I have a raging hard-on for SCH and am super jealous of BLMs" doesn't count.