Attacking other players while under the effect of Charm

[Rafien]

Kill them, they're going to attack you so might as well be them and not you.

[Ironside]

I love love love killing charmed friends when it won't seriously compromise our current objective, but I absolutely refuse to kill random charmed people who generally behave in a civil manner and go about their business. My friends and I will sometimes take Abyssea NMs, but only if the other group fully wiped and cannot continue the fight without the aid of unlimited Apoc reraises.

This, although I admit sometimes I really, really want to CW charmed groups. Not because I hate them or hold a grudge or anything, purely for the lulz (I main BLM, so I enjoy things blowing up; if it's other players, all the better). I don't do it though, because it would be really, really rude of me.

[Bulrogg]

I remember being in Sea with the Linkshell and waiting for our tanks to get charmed so we could unleash WS and nukes on them just for shits and giggles. It's was fun time to time as long as the fights weren't getting chaotic. Then we'd only aspir the tanks <.<

"Stop stealing my MP!!"

However, I never attacked charmed players outside of our Linkshell/party. And imo doing so is really a NPH move. The only place I guess it would be mildly acceptable would be Besieged; and even there I'm betting people would still be upset.

[Ironside]

I remember being in Sea with the Linkshell and waiting for our tanks to get charmed so we could unleash WS and nukes on them just for shits and giggles. It's was fun time to time as long as the fights weren't getting chaotic. Then we'd only aspir the tanks <.<

Haha! I remember in Dynamis - San d'Oria one time a year or two ago, everyone got charmed and I didn't have MP, so I Aspir'd one of the tanks and used the MP to blow up a DRK. It was pretty fun.

[Ilax]

@Ilax: You're an ass. Other people followed your group because it sounds like your group wiped on a fairly regular basis. Your failures are not good excuses, in my opinion, to run about facilitating wipes by killing random charmed people. I don't see any issue with stumbling upon a wiped group and claiming/killing 'their' NM. I do have a real problem with people who facilitate such wipes by killing charmed folks whose sin was being charmed around MMO sociopaths.

You can call me an ass if you wan, as i said, i do it as revenge. I "TRIO BOX" my empy weapon. i have 3 now and working on 3 more, of course trio glavoid mean trouble at some point specially when he do disgorge, i think i would not care if someone take NM when they see is "game over" for me, but that is not what they did 7x time, they was camping me, and by that, i speak of a FULL LINKSHELL standing next to me watiing if i gonna die and when i say DIE is not wipe, and as soon he go unclaim BAAM they spam stun on it to steal.

Call me an ass as you wan, i just return the favor to all those people that think is right to steal NM, i am over it now, and as i stated i don't care anymore if people steal my NM, since is what i do myself now everyday. You know is funny to see how many noob wipe on everything (by that i mean a group of 15 people wiping on orthrus when i trio it in they face (after i stole it of course) is a major joy after the treatment i got from glavoid.

Like you said, i am not a solid group by "trio box" my empy weapon, so people can take avantage of me, but good news for you, i am solid enough to return favor and steal your stuff too. You see where all this go now, you really think i would just sit back, take my juice and take no action? must be kidding me.

Again, i'm an ass? I guess, ty everyone for turning me that way.

Eeek hit this on the head; you're being an utter hypocrite. If you fail, your NM is free game. Apoc-zombieing is not "recovering" in my eyes, and as a result if I see a group that has to do that to win, I'll either sit and wait for a full group wipe and then take it, or get annoyed watching it go white again and again and take it before someone else does. However, you sound like you're just stalking a group

You can think w/e you wan about me, i am over it now, i never complain anymore for NM steal, i do camp other group to see if they gonna wipe, and i do steal everytime i have a chance, full wipe or not, i don't give anymore a heck.

My politic wont change till everyone politic change, chance that happen is 0, so yes deal with it.

[Kimble]

The thing is, if someone is doing it to you then yeah, its fine to do it back to them but it sounds like you are butthurt your NMs got stolen so instead of paying it back to the group that did it to you, you do it to other people that did you no wrong at all.

If you are camping people and doing it over and over again, you are griefing. Not really wise to admit that on the official forum, lol.

[Karbuncle]

wat

You sound like the type of person who would go home and beat their wife because you stubbed your toe at work.

Read: You're taking out all your pent up anger over losing a mob on random people who have done nothing wrong to you. This is the signs of anger problems. You should seek professional help if your means of out-letting your anger is going out of your way to harass/target/kill people in FFXI because some linkshell took your Glavoids.

Two wrongs don't make a right. You make people as miserable as you were when you got your Glavoids stolen simply out of hatred for those people who stole your mob?

It sucks to have vultures take your mob but purposefully going out of your way to do that to other people just because it happened to you is far worse than the what that Linkshell did. You have become worse than the people you hated so much.

[Ilax]

@Karbuncle: not really, i sound more like a guy that would beat wife bc she beat me and steal/cheat me, that sound more correct.

The thing is, if someone is doing it to you then yeah, its fine to do it back to them but it sounds like you are butthurt your NMs got stolen so instead of paying it back to the group that did it to you, you do it to other people that did you no wrong at all.

If you are camping people and doing it over and over again, you are griefing. Not really wise to admit that on the official forum, lol.

If it was just 1 linkshell, but huh no, it been different linkshell acting the same way, and let be serious, if your LS see a "trio box" doing glavoid, wont you start camping him too? to me now it seem like is general (everyone do that and they all think is Ok, is now time for those Trio box [like me] give some revenge. Every time someone think is "ok" to steal, you just creating your own evil, and of course i know i am not going to fix anything by acting like an ASS, but for now it give to myself a satisfaction instead make me wan to quit the game, and by satisfaction, i mean OMG i take pleasure of it now... [i look more like an ass now right? is my goal too, and hope more trio box take same reaction about it or HOPEFULLY SE take real action and make the one who pop NM get drop in his PT, no matter who kill it, same system as Key Item. [Easy fix right?] till then well, keep stealing NM thinking you have more right then them, and deal with the "griefing" because they just wan revenge.

[Kimble]

It still doesnt make it right to go around and camp other people when they did NOTHING to you. Shockingly, not everyone playing this game is a jerk. Why would you go around and do it to other people that didnt do anything to you, when you don't like it when its done to you? Maybe you should "suck less" when you 3 box.

And no, I have better things to do than camp people killing NMs.

[Lotmorning]

Not sure if someone actually answered the OP's original question (to tired to read through all 8 pages right now), however killing someone who is charmed is not against the ToS. I probably still have the SS from around 6 years ago when we had some LS members camping Xolotl. There was a group that would also camp against us and when ever we got claim they would nuke us every time it charmed us ended up stealing a fair number of Xolotl from us and GM told us right out that killing a charmed character is not a violation of the ToS, it is a risk we take fighting a mob with that move at its disposal.