Attacking other players while under the effect of Charm

[Cream_Soda]

It wasnt meant to >.> it was meant as get it right or dont win anything. If you have taken the time to get the pop why should others be able to steal the mob from you.

So it's a spite thing? We weren't good enough to kill it, so nobody else should?

Let's say a group needs [insert drop here] and we wipe at 20% to [inseret mob here], which drops that item they need one of.

I'd rather them kill it, get that drop and leave (or even if they need more than 1, be 1 drop closer to leaving and not having to fight to pop the NM), than it to simply just disappear and have to worry about them trying to pop it over us on the next attempt.

This situation) Possibility the other group gtfo's faster and leaves you alone
Your situation) 0 benefit to anyone at all.

Again, unless it's just plain out of spite, I don't see why anyone would want your scenario in comparison.

[katz]

Would love to see a charm ability for players to charm beastmen to attack nms with. Note not beasts like bst can.

[Habiki]

I wish all mobs in abyssea had the ability to charm, it would be like pvp revived but better since you can gear swap, would be nice after uncharming if your still alive to have the chance for revenge on whoever attacked you while you we're charmed, would add a whole new challenge to the game.

Would like to see AoE spells work on entire groups of charmed people as well.

If they we're to fix the charm aspect and being attacked by another player outside of your group, then the best way to go about it would be to have the charm effect wear off once you take damage from someone outside the group. Although if you we're attacked by someone in your group the charmed effect would stay on till it's duration was over.

If this thread is about Cirein-croin and being killed by other LS's, I'm suprised people haven't figured out how to avoid his charm move. There's a very simple solution to his move but it's not up on wiki, I doubt anyone will post how to avoid it either since it's one of the few oppurtunitys to kill other groups for sport and a good laugh amongst friends.

Don't think theres any way to avoid Raskovniks charm move but I could be wrong have only fought him once long ago for atma and his key item doesnt lead to an empyrean mob set. Hes just for eccentric eves pop set so I doubt you'll see many fighting it like at Cirein-croin so the chance of getting killed while charmed is really low. Anyways best to just gold chest farm Abyssea - Konschtat in between killing fistule, always a chance at some nice dark rings as well while doing it.

[JovialRat]

its funny as hell

[Airget]

Pro Tip:If you're a Warrior and see a dual wield job charmed use Retaliation and enjoy the fun. I tried this on a NIN friend once just to see how it would turn out and then went from full to 0 in like 5 seconds cause of their attack speed it was pretty amusing, but it's not something I would do to people I don't know.

The act of being charmed is for some it can be a stress relieving thing getting humor off killing your comrades, on the positive they don't lose any xp and it can be fun at times.

Though on the serious end it's not something you would wanna do in a serious situation but in one where you have everything handled and just wanna have some fun lol.

Another amusing thing about being charmed is skillup works both ways, the charmed player can actually gain skillup from the person they attack and I believe it works the other way as well. Heck what better way to show a sense of cooperation then to beat the crap out of one another in an attempt to skillup combat skills. That's something you can't do in Ballista. Granted I am being sarcastic to an extent but it's amusing during those small windows when you are charmed and attacking an ally and you see a you gain .2 skillup.

Not sure why this thought just popped in my head but it would be amusing if SE made a new PVP concept where two players order around charmed players on the battlefield, strategically commanding them to use certain moves and command to take down the foe, but in a generic command where you can't outright say sleepga II, it would be more like "slow down the enemy" and they may use sleep, or bind and such. Anyways ya I think for the most part people are pretty civil with charm I've never actually witnessed a random person killing another stranger while they are charmed out of the fear that the same may be done to them. The only time I really see people being killed are when they are familiar with one another lol and then it's just done in humor.

[Kya]

lol love killing charm ppl with wildfire on ppl lol

[Sparthos]

Charm being so fun shows people secretly desire PvP.

I made it a habit to Jishnu's Radiance individuals charmed back when I used to RNG Titlacauan.

[Urteil]

So the FFXI community loves killing charmed people but not PvP?

Oh wait, that's just the retarded people.

Oh wai-

[Coldbrand]

I just realized how fun it would be to hang out by cirein-croin or titlacauan after pimping out BLM and nuking everyone.

[Ilax]

Well, i did not read all thread but this make me remember Pallas... People was killing his bat so pallas could charm the solo'er and then they was killing him and claim Pallas... We did call GM and GM said they was unable to do anything about it since is game mechanic...

I saw same happen again "Eccentric Eve", player got charmed, then they got kill by competition and NM stoled. Is that group got punished? I doubt, but was funny to watch none the less, i would probably be piss if this happen to me, but no worry, i always have a backup tank staying far....