Bio III, can I has it.

[Jar]

YEAH GUYS WHY CANT DRK JUST REPLACE BLM AND NUKE SHIZZLES

enough of this stupid demi and bio talk Magic is stupid and needs to much to be worthwhile

attack boosts and DPS boosts or GTFO and quit DRK period

the same guys posting this shit bring it up very time they can on the DRK forum too, and we say Stfu every time.

[Leonlionheart]

YEAH GUYS WHY CANT DRK JUST REPLACE BLM AND NUKE SHIZZLES

enough of this stupid demi and bio talk Magic is stupid and needs to much to be worthwhile

attack boosts and DPS boosts or GTFO and quit DRK period

the same guys posting this shit bring it up very time they can on the DRK forum too, and we say Stfu every time.

Emo fanboys who like the armor but not the real job.

If you want a job that gets DPS and Attack boosts strictly, go play WAR. From the sound of it all you want is to turn the job into a Dark Warrior rather than a Final Fantasy Dark Knight.

Warrior gets the highest damage,
Monk gets the highest white damage (non WS damage),
Thief gets to steal stuff,
Dark Knight gets arcane magic (debuffs, Confuse, Break, etc.), and heightened damage at the cost of HP (although usually this comes in the form of an AoE command that costs HP.)
Beast Master gets pets,
Samurai (traditionally gets Auto-Kill attacks) FFXI SAMs are quite happy with TP generation,
Dragoon gets Jumps (although FFXI jumps are very different from FF jumps in that you don't stay in the air long),
Ninja (traditionally) gets throw,
Ranger gets Ranged Attacks (almost always LOL),
Dancer can dance while debuffing,
Blue Mage is actually nothing like FF Blue Mage, in that generally it's not a Melee Mage and just a Cool Thingy Mage.

If you wan't to break away from FF lore, I suggest trying a different game.

I believe that DRK should have spells that are actually worth casting, in that they are more beneficial than the MP cost + added time between swings.

[Jar]

Emo fanboys who like the armor but not the real job.

If you want a job that gets DPS and Attack boosts strictly, go play WAR. From the sound of it all you want is to turn the job into a Dark Warrior rather than a Final Fantasy Dark Knight.

Warrior gets the highest damage,
Monk gets the highest white damage (non WS damage),
Thief gets to steal stuff,
Dark Knight gets arcane magic (debuffs, Confuse, Break, etc.), and heightened damage at the cost of HP (although usually this comes in the form of an AoE command that costs HP.)
Beast Master gets pets,
Samurai (traditionally gets Auto-Kill attacks) FFXI SAMs are quite happy with TP generation,
Dragoon gets Jumps (although FFXI jumps are very different from FF jumps in that you don't stay in the air long),
Ninja (traditionally) gets throw,
Ranger gets Ranged Attacks (almost always LOL),
Dancer can dance while debuffing,
Blue Mage is actually nothing like FF Blue Mage, in that generally it's not a Melee Mage and just a Cool Thingy Mage.

REad that to yourself and say your not being a closed minded Idiot lore really?

nothing but that can happen at all? You're not even correct on a great deal of those jobs anyway and you say you want to stick to lore?

Lore is something Easily avoided in FFXI because it is very trivial and Making a Good Game is much more beneficial than sticking to lore so everyone can play a game that is the exact same.

lets just stop giving THf eva bonus and give tham Seal I-XVI than

DRK can be the new RDM

And RDM doesnt even exists anymore :O

really man strike back with a Logical reason Why DRK should get alllll of this stupid magic and how it will enhance the game in anyway.

in all forms also DRK is a DD in the way that WAR is and overall alot of the jobs are copys of eachother

Because the game Has different jobs doesn't make them all need to be different exps when it would puts them into the situational category. overall there a VERY few things that matter in this game to make jobs usefull And SE needs to fullfil them before they deal with all the stupid things that make sense in lore but are not practical in everyday use.

also i see you're a WAR.90 so lets just make WAR a tank than as the game Was lored to be? Would you like that as a main WAR? nothing put DEF gear and gim WS from now on we stickin to lore!

If you want a job that gets DPS and Attack boosts strictly, go play WAR. From the sound of it all you want is to turn the job into a Dark Warrior rather than a Final Fantasy Dark Knight.

OHHHHH and i saw attack boost be mentioned. i forgot is that the one DRK gets 5 traits in ? oh yeah it is

[Leonlionheart]

Read that to yourself and say your not being a closed minded Idiot lore really?

nothing but that can happen at all? You're not even correct on a great deal of those jobs anyway and you say you want to stick to lore?

Lore is something Easily avoided in FFXI because it is very trivial and Making a Good Game is much more beneficial than sticking to lore so everyone can play a game that is the exact same.

lets just stop giving THf eva bonus and give tham Seal I-XVI than

DRK can be the new RDM

And RDM doesnt even exists anymore :O

really man strike back with a Logical reason Why DRK should get alllll of this stupid magic and how it will enhance the game in anyway.

in all forms also DRK is a DD in the way that WAR is and overall alot of the jobs are copys of eachother

Because the game Has different jobs doesn't make them all need to be different exps when it would puts them into the situational category. overall there a VERY few things that matter in this game to make jobs usefull And SE needs to fullfil them before they deal with all the stupid things that make sense in lore but are not practical in everyday use.

also i see you're a WAR.90 so lets just make WAR a tank than as the game Was lored to be? Would you like that as a main WAR? nothing put DEF gear and gim WS from now on we stickin to lore!

OHHHHH and i saw attack boost be mentioned. i forgot is that the one DRK gets 5 traits in ? oh yeah it is

1: Most of the jobs in this game come from the jobs in FFIII. The rest can be found in FFIV~V.
2: WAR was never a tank other than in FFXI. In III it could wear heavy armor, but it's ability was to deal more damage at the loss of defense. Actually, WAR completely follows it's lore as being able to debuff with it's weapon too (As seen in FFX, FFX-2)
3: Get your head out of the DD clouds, what you want for the job is to bring it closer to WAR rather than it's own job. You might as well blend them together.

Seriously though, if all you want is Attack bonuses and DPS bonuses why are you playing the job? WAR does all of that better in every way. The only time DRK stands a chance is outside abyssea when there is no BRD.

ANSWER THIS: There has to be some discrepancy between DDs or else why even play DRK? In terms of DD it loses to WAR and SAM and DRG in every way.

[Jar]

3: Get your head out of the DD clouds, what you want for the job is to bring it closer to WAR rather than it's own job. You might as well blend them together.

Seriously though, if all you want is Attack bonuses and DPS bonuses why are you playing the job? WAR does all of that better in every way. The only time DRK stands a chance is outside abyssea when there is no BRD.

ANSWER THIS: There has to be some discrepancy between DDs or else why even play DRK? In terms of DD it loses to WAR and SAM and DRG in every way.

DRK will openly rip a SAM in half in and outside of abyssea man hardly even a comp inside and outside DRK is Close if not ahead of DRG and WAR

I picked DRK for its ability to use GS and scythe witch is the major difference in all cases between it and other DD jobs.I wanted to see it swing those 2 weapons because i myself like them. Not a GA not a polearm and NOT a GK
the jobs are all literally the same /attack /ws repeat structure and they need to stay that way.

And the overall debate here isnt that DRK is becoming more like WAR its that If it doesn't get more DD abilitys just as war and sam and drg and mnk get this job will become useless really quickly. because it is a DD and DD is all it needs to be.

[Leonlionheart]

DRK will openly rip a SAM in half in and outside of abyssea man hardly even a comp inside and outside DRK is Close if not ahead of DRG and WAR

I picked DRK for its ability to use GS and scythe witch is the major difference in all cases between it and other DD jobs.I wanted to see it swing those 2 weapons because i myself like them. Not a GA not a polearm and NOT a GK
the jobs are all literally the same /attack /ws repeat structure and they need to stay that way.

And the overall debate here isnt that DRK is becoming more like WAR its that If it doesn't get more DD abilitys just as war and sam and drg and mnk get this job will become useless really quickly. because it is a DD and DD is all it needs to be.

So give WAR Scythe and GS skill, problem solved right?

SE has already stated that it wants to improve DRK's magic capabilities to clear the lines between it and other DDs.

P.S. (Marchx2 90Masamune SAM will WRECK a 90Torcleaver DRK all over the place, DRG inside abyssea will DESTROY DRK all the time, and buffed WAR will ALWAYS ALWAYS be better than everyone)

[Jar]

So give WAR Scythe and GS skill, problem solved right?

SE has already stated that it wants to improve DRK's magic capabilities to clear the lines between it and other DDs.

P.S. (Marchx2 90Masamune SAM will WRECK a 90Torcleaver DRK all over the place, DRG inside abyssea will DESTROY DRK all the time, and buffed WAR will ALWAYS ALWAYS be better than everyone)

Quote or didnt happen to SE claim





and the other shit is total speculation i know for a fact im not far behind Ukko's war because they CANNOT keep retaliation and make it as beneficial as having the mob always hit you all the time. the WS damage is moot because 72% of the time DRK will WS twice as fast if not faster and deal more damage gaining TP

have you ever really seen a Caladbolg DRK ripping things apart with last resort and aftermath? not even counting souleater or aftermath crits do 700~800 dmg and aftermath puts them 1500~ soul eater 1800~ with that 430 delay and alot of haste you swing like a mad man and i always out melee damage a WAR.

[Supersun]

1: Most of the jobs in this game come from the jobs in FFIII. The rest can be found in FFIV~V.

Puppetmaster?

[Leonlionheart]

Puppetmaster?

You know, I don't know what game that's from. Weird.