World spawning HNM

[Runespider]

I cannot believe that Square would be so stupid to add world spawn HNM of any kind again, they were the games biggest failure and the worst embarassment for the dev team. This includes all HNM, including sandworm and DI.

I can think of a handful of bot creators that made a living off the HNM scene and that was a slap in the face for Square. The devs openly said multiple times they just could not counter botters and in that situation you just do it a different way, which is what they did.

I know OP is just trolling and good luck to him, but if there is even the slightest thought they would repeat the same mistakes again the last faf/nin/kings update should put rest to that. If they saw any value in it they would of increased the level of the mobs and gone with that not make it a force pop system, making that bastion of oldschool FFXI force spawn shows the mindset better than any official replies you care to read.

The best you can hope for if you loved HNM is ones that respawn in 10-20 mins.

[Vold]

Outclaiming competition wasn't boring for me. If you claimed alot you would probably have a different opinion on the matter. Maby you should consider getting better at the game maby?

Boring is sitting in 1 zone for hours on end spamming/grinding KIs for emps.
Boring is watching an alliance in abyssea take 5x longer to kill stuff then you would.
Boring is those same ppl all wearing full teal/Aurore/Perle w/e.

Fun is doing something that you want to do.
Fun is winning at the game.
Fun is defeating the competition.

Im not quiting bc i know world spawns will be back eventually, maby not in the old sense but in some form they will be back. I can't wait!

Everything you list as boring could have been said before Abyssea ever reared it's head. Sitting in one zone for hours grinding sky. Sea. Dynamis. I can go on. Watching a low man group kill Tia or anything over you. Seeing everyone in the end game scene basically have the same gear and the difference today is casuals are thrown into the mix. And heaven forbid we have gear that matches for a change and a THF looks like a THF and a BST looks like a BST.

Now don't get me wrong. There's nothing like NM camping to get the blood pumping. But when it is tailored made to bot, it pretty much kills the point of doing it. I've gone up against bots in my time. It is 99% pointless to bother. And the occasional claim by you on DI or whatever does not magically mean you are a champion claimer over bots or that bots didn't matter. Bots aren't fool proof but they're pretty damn close. The fact is, HNM is a game of money, and once people crossed that line of botting, they could never go back, especially when it would just mean they lose claims to the other LSs and ultimately lose money. Money that funded their bleeping gimp relics that they cared so much about. People took it seriously enough to buy programs and characters to aid them in claiming. And these people were at the top of the food chain for many years until Abyssea showed up.

Facts are facts, man. Bots drove out the masses in the end game scene for years. Single LSs would brag day in and out about all the HNMs they botted and claimed for the month after the cat was let out of the bag. It was used as ammo for shouting matches. Your LS was not immune to it's wrath. Yet you claim that you were immune. That you did what no one else could do, fight bots and win, because of lol skills. You'll have us believe that your LS without the aid of computer technology ruled supreme in end game, and that your entire reasoning for wanting more of the old is for purely the thrill of claiming a HNM over another person(btw the thrill of it comes from the drops, and eventually the money but we'll pretend I didn't just say that to blow your cover) Okay. Right. Sure. Whatever. I suppose it's possible. It's certainly not impossible.

But seriously, just admit you want easy money again. Nothing wrong with that. People respect bluntness. They don't respect being told that they just suck at claiming against bots like it's rocket science or something to spam a macro at a HNM camp for a minute every 30 minutes for 3 hours, or to spam WS for SW/DI. The so called "fun" aspect you keep preaching about is getting paid big gils for HNM drops so you can buy your overpriced items that you'd never get by regular means. It's that simple. Just admit it and this debate will end, and whether people would admit it or not they will respect you for being straight up about this. We all know there is only one reason to continue camping HNM after you get what you want gear wise: money. It's damn fun when you can get expensive items easily by being paid countless millions of gil for 20 minutes of work a few times a day. And when SE took that away from your LS you lost however many members or whatever the deal is and I'm quite certain most of them would come back if they could make easy millions again, NOT because they get some thrill of claiming a virtual monster over other people. The thrill is great but it will never be great enough to dictate people quitting the game. Ever. End game is business, period. SE took that away and lots of hardcore players quit over it.

Why did you stop camping old content after Abyssea? Ah yeah that's right, the money was no longer there. So long thrills! I hope you burn in HELL. I rest my case. And I personally would support 24 hr HNM any day of the week... if it was FAIR. But it's not. So it's pointless except to give players a big payday so they don't have to slave away on lesser means to buy their crappy trophy relics. That's not reason enough to invest man hours into timed HNM imho. The concept was awesome. The players ruined it. SE moved on. Expect them to continue moving on.

[Daremo]

I'm amazed how long this topic has carried on based one one person's refusal to remove their nostalgia goggles. The resounding opinion seems to be, "Thank god it's dead, let's burn the corpse and scatter the ashes to make absolutely sure."

Remember the days of the Bubonic Plague? Ah, you really felt alive when everyone was keeling over around you. And those cheery calls of, "Bring out your dead!", how I miss those!

The past is past, it sucked, and it's over. Stop wishing it back. Let's all move on.

[Coldbrand]

No thanks, botters can go rot and cry about the death of their monopoly on this game.

[Arlan]

Outclaiming competition wasn't boring for me. If you claimed alot you would probably have a different opinion on the matter. Maby you should consider getting better at the game maby?

Boring is sitting in 1 zone for hours on end spamming/grinding KIs for emps.
Boring is watching an alliance in abyssea take 5x longer to kill stuff then you would.
Boring is those same ppl all wearing full teal/Aurore/Perle w/e.

Fun is doing something that you want to do.
Fun is winning at the game.
Fun is defeating the competition.

Im not quiting bc i know world spawns will be back eventually, maby not in the old sense but in some form they will be back. I can't wait!

Your one messed up individual lol

[Natenn]

So devs, when will there be new world spawn HNM?

[Bumbeen]

They gave you the answer when they changed the kings to force pop.

[Nynja]

So devs, when will there be new world spawn HNM?

If they add new world spawns with unique, nice looking but completely useless drops, would you camp it?

[Zaknafein]

They nuke the thread you made over at ffxiah today?

[Natenn]

appears so, bc ppl start crying.