World spawning HNM

[Arlan]

I got one of my friends to play this game and he loves the progression and story lure of FFXi.
A lot of accessable contents for everyone to learn and enjoy with friends and solos.

I tried to get my OLD RL friend to come back to FFXi tho...
He said he doesn't want to play because of what the game was back in the days...
I tried to tell him the game has changed completely but he still doesn't care...
When he comes over my house for a visit, he doesn't even want to see me play FFXi.

How do I let my friend know the game is a lot more fun and accessable if he doesn't wan't to see me play it a little bit?

He was my old friend who quit because he doesn't have so much time to invest on the game back then because of how the grinding was. Him and I wanted to do Missions, Assaults, and other stuff but he never reached lvl75. His highest was lvl43 then quit...
I even told him leveling is WAY faster now and so is skilling up..

I told him now he can lvl quicker so we can do more contents together... But he doesn't believe me...

Anyways, At least I got one of my new RL friends into the game now.
His loving it! My new friend joined the game in the right time! Can't wait for him to finish lvling so we can do abyssea, missions, and assaults together. Excited for MMMs too.

Not everyone has all the RL time in the world to play games.
Not everyone has all the RL time in the world to camp NMs that spawn 24-74hours.

People have Lives and people want to spend their time playing games for fun when they want on their own schedules. The game is not ment to be treated like a "REAL LIFE JOB" where if the clock ticks on your watch, it means you have to log into the game regardless of what your doing just to kill a monster/boss you need for a low drop rate item that means absolutely Nothing.


You say you enjoy HNM content but why do you really enjoy it?
Anyone who enjoys wasting time than actually playing the game for fun is not a true gamer.

You claimed you enjoy the challenge that HNMs had when it comes down to claiming.
You claimed that you missed and enjoy the challenge the competition provided.
THEN....
THEN....
You claim you do not like the competitions either but claim that it shouldn't be a valid reason why SE should take away the 24-74hour NM pops since its a content part of the game..

HOW COULD YOU SAY "I miss HNMs and the challenge it gave for the competitions" when you Just said "I don't Like competitions either but that doesn't mean they should take that content away"?!

Makes no sense.... At all...

[Arlan]

You miss something you do Not like?
You appreciate a content that you do not appreciate?

Explain to me in full details, double spaced, with 3 paragraphs on how this makes sense to an average joe!

[Sureal]

you know whats really awesome, the fact that since you have stooped to personal attacks, you have basically given up and admitted that im right, ty for that

[Natenn]

No your still not right, opinions are opinions. Facts are facts. I'll let you figure it out there. And Arlan calm down its just a game, don't need to post an essay every time like you are 100% right and anyone who is opposed is 100% wrong. Play the game since its obviously the greatest thing ever to you it seems, and your friend was never 75? I dont think he even made it to endgame to have an opinion about being bad or good.

[Arlan]

No your still not right, opinions are opinions. Facts are facts. I'll let you figure it out there. And Arlan calm down its just a game, don't need to post an essay every time like you are 100% right and anyone who is opposed is 100% wrong. Play the game since its obviously the greatest thing ever to you it seems, and your friend was never 75? I dont think he even made it to endgame to have an opinion about being bad or good.

Because he never could put the time back in the days to get the lvl75, because the grind fest was too much back then where he never got the chance to experience endgame or contents, he quit the game.

A gamer can tell if he/she likes the game if the game offers content that he/she enjoys.
FFXi didn't have much contents back in the days beause most contents where endgames and missions where you had to be level cap in order to participate. The leveling up method back then was a grind fest on exp only with limited things to do at low levels. It took way to long to level for any players to experience the game. The time you start experiencing is the time when u reach level cap and start having more contents/options open to experience.

Back then, content was not open or accessible for lower levels and grinding was heavy in time to invest.
So my friend has an opinion that is valid based on his experiencing as a gamer. If he didn't like the game at all because He didn't have so much RL time to invest just to be able to experience contents that the game provided, then he has the right to dislike the game and say the game was bad. Only things he experienced was grinding exp and small quests and a little bit rank missions. Ultimatly thats his opinion if he doesnt like the game and so if he thinks the game is bad then thats understandable.

You can play a game and tell if you like it based on contents it provides and gameplay. You don't have to reach lvl cap to do endgames to have an opinion if the game is bad or good. Why play a game if the game is not worth even playing based on how much limited time the individual has to invest in JUST to GRIND all day/month/year just to get access on the main contents the game provides? (Note: Im talking about before WotG and Abyssea and level sync)

FACT IS: Gamers who play games want to have fun on their own schedule and be able to play with their friends online in an MMO environment for story/Adventures/progression/explorations.

Fact is: My friend (the one who quit) wanted to play ffxi for that very reason, but instead, the game happened to give him nothing but Heavy GRINDING and a little explorations and a little progression, with very little story, (Rank3 and quests) and Nothing else to do but chitchat in LS. He thinks the game sucks because instead of playing the game as the means of enjoyments, he played it as means of just grinding. And his level was low so we wanted him to lvl to cap so he can start experiencing full story missions, full explorations in all valadiel, full endgame contents, things he did not have a chance to experience unfortunately.

The Fact is: You Think you enjoy competitions but yet, You don't because you claim it so, and yet, you still have not answered me my questions before this Post I made.

This thread should be closed cause it is clear nobody finds this thread interesting anymore...

Natten, Arlan, and Sureal seems to be the only ones who really even post anymore in this thread.
And so far, this thread fails.

[Zaknafein]

What fails is the disease of casual whimpering, and the fact that SE has bowed to your types crying. FFxi used to be a game where instant gratification was not catered to. That's what set it apart from every other moronic MMO on the market. It's been sullied, and tarnished now forever, and your shame will live on for generations.

[Sureal]

then leave, theres the door, no one is holding it shut

[Azagthoth]

What fails is the disease of casual whimpering, and the fact that SE has bowed to your types crying. FFxi used to be a game where instant gratification was not catered to. That's what set it apart from every other moronic MMO on the market. It's been sullied, and tarnished now forever, and your shame will live on for generations.

I guess "hardcore" status is determined by how much gil you can make while being AFK.

Don't worry; there are still ways you can still make gil while mostly not being at your computer.

[Zaknafein]

Who is talking about gil?

[Sureal]

after 2 long and pointless threads, we have figured out that is natenns ultimate goal, he was making gil off of monopolizing hnm's and the like, and since he cant do that anymore hes qq'ing

now, cue natenn with something about me crying or being mad or something else stupid

actually, you know what, this thread is now about pie, your favorite, my favorite,everyones favorite, recipies and such, so do tell, mine is rhubarb, god i love rhubarb pie so good