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    tell you what, i will leave you alone, and stay out of this thread forever, if you say the real reason you want world pop hnm's back

    we all know what it is, its been said many many times, and yet you try to say something different everytime, so do this for me, be a man, grow a pair, and man up to what your true intentions are
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    Quote Originally Posted by Natenn View Post
    its a petty attempt at trolling from my perspective
    why don't you try typing "no" and see what happens. It isn't rocket science lol...
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    have you read the rest of his posts, i think your asking a lot here
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sureal View Post
    have you read the rest of his posts, i think your asking a lot here
    Touché


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    ball is in your court sir, tick tock tick tock
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    The real reason? What on earth are you babbling about? I said i want competition back in the game, no idea what you could be talking about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Natenn View Post
    Arlan changed sig to try and act all righteous lol, theres different types of gamers so those 1-6 you posted are your opinion. Gamers are ppl who play games, theres many types: Hardcore, casual, dedicated, good, bad, mediacore, ect. Just because i like something and you don't doesn't make you right or me wrong. Sure you think its fun now, but for ppl who did HNM for years its the same thing bar competition which is the only thing that kept most of "my crowd" as someone so elequently put it playing. Game base has been cut down since abyssea, no competition = ppl get bored/quit.
    Your a very delusional individual.
    My sig doesn't say "You must be a FPS fan to be a gamer"
    My sig doesn't say "You must be an RPG fan to be a gamer"
    My sig doesn't tell you what kind of games or styles you should like in order to be considered a gamer.

    My Sig simply tells people that gamers play games to enjoy, wether your casual or hardcore, don't matter.
    I can be a Hardcore FPS fan but that doesn't mean I want to wait 24-74hours just to get a chance to be next in line to play a round. Heck no. Hard core players want to play not wait and they certainly don't want to waste time doing nothing when they want to play their favorite game/content/challenge/event.

    Your brain washed in thinking hardcore players want HUGE time sink elements when the reality is, hard core players want the exact opposite. They want more challenges, accessable challenges and they wana do them as much as they can for how long as they can.

    and guess what,

    Casual players also want the same thing too. They want accessable contents and challanging contents, but 24-75hour repop is just plain Bull.

    Keep deluding yourself with your cult in way of thinking this.
    You may be a different gamer than I am, and you may enjoy different styles than I do, But that doesn't change the fact that We both pay to play the game and we both want to log on and play the game.

    I want to log on and GAME!
    You want to log on when the game tells you to Game.

    This doesn't make it a "Different style", this is just a system made to prevent majority to have the schedule to play their game of content they wish to partake.

    And if this is the case, I'm missing out on content cause I cannot put my life schedule around "The Game" because you prefer it that way, so people like me are missing contents we pay SE for our monthly payment.

    For that, I have to say: NO THANKS.

    Like I said, go outside and "Pretend" you are being timed to pop or spawn an NM so it feels like an HNM for you or something. Limit yourself is fine but limiting others so you obtain Epic Gear that no one else can obtain because of the "Time sink, play on the game's schedule only" method, is plain wrong.
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    Last edited by Arlan; 06-02-2011 at 06:43 PM.
    1. True Gamers plays to have fun.
    2. True Gamers don't play to waste time.
    3. True Gamers Aren't wasting time if they enjoy the contents they play while progressing.
    4. Gamers Love to see progression based on time/effort they put into challenges.
    5. Gamers plays for challenging Elements, and Wants more Enjoyable contents.
    6. Gamers don't play for Time Sink Elements, and Don't want A game to be a Chore!
    All Gamers Unite!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Natenn View Post
    What you gonna do when new world spawns come out?
    If it comes out, then I consider it useless content and Wont participate in it because I have a life and I got better things to do with my time than waste it with players like you who want to claim it away from me.

    Only time I would participate would be when Everyone stops camping them cause they already have it, that way I would have access to enjoy fighting the NM with my friends while hoping to get a drop rate.

    But I bet that wont be the case since if it is designed anything like the old FFXI HNM system where everyone keeps doing them cause of low ass drop rates, then I would say "SE, give us a better way to low man this with a Battle Field style event and let us go at it once every game day to avoid such horrible HNM mechanics so everyone can get a chance at it who want to play at their own schedule and not the Game's."

    I would continue to do things more worth while of my time even If they Added HNMs cause HNMs where a turn off for me and most who just want to long on and play for fun on their own schedule, makes the game feel more of a chore and a RL job instead.

    Game's are made for entertainment purpose, Its made to be fun not to be a Chore.
    If you can't get this through ur head, then your not a gamer, your just someone who wants to waste their time on something and you have all the time in the world to waste to show off your epic gear to people who cannot but wish they can devote as much as time as you did.

    Again: No thanks
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    Last edited by Arlan; 06-02-2011 at 07:12 PM.
    1. True Gamers plays to have fun.
    2. True Gamers don't play to waste time.
    3. True Gamers Aren't wasting time if they enjoy the contents they play while progressing.
    4. Gamers Love to see progression based on time/effort they put into challenges.
    5. Gamers plays for challenging Elements, and Wants more Enjoyable contents.
    6. Gamers don't play for Time Sink Elements, and Don't want A game to be a Chore!
    All Gamers Unite!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Natenn View Post
    The real reason? What on earth are you babbling about? I said i want competition back in the game, no idea what you could be talking about.
    Go PVP and fight with players in Belista. Thats competition right there.
    Majority of the game was designed for players to work together to achieve things together.
    But Belista or brenner was designed for pvp purpose.

    HNMs where not made for players to compete against each other.
    SE stated that their intention was to make it where the HNM pops ever so on so when players explore into new areas and such, they can see powerful new NMs to take on with their LS mates and team when passing by.

    But instead, everyone tryed to camp them and even go far to bott them and make it a heavy "Botting sport".

    I dont care if you bot or don't bot your claims, But what I do care for is the fact that Players "Having to play the game on the Game's schedule and Not on their own's schedule". This is where Majority of the players who are limited in time for RL not being able to have access to overtake challenges they might want to take for items they want that can cause problems with.

    Go play WoW or some other game that is heavily build for PVPing. FFXI was not made for PVP Claim Wars, The community made it that way based on Elitism. (PVP Belista and Brenner where made for fun Competitions not Elitism.)

    This is why majority dislike this idea and don't want the old HNM system back.
    Good luck trying to get people other wise.

    A system Preventing majority of players from fighting NMs or doing enjoyable contents isn't challenging, it is frustrating and annoying. The Challenge is trying to beat the NM with your team successfully since it is a PVE based game, even tho there are some PVP elements like Belista or Brenner.
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    Last edited by Arlan; 06-02-2011 at 07:52 PM.
    1. True Gamers plays to have fun.
    2. True Gamers don't play to waste time.
    3. True Gamers Aren't wasting time if they enjoy the contents they play while progressing.
    4. Gamers Love to see progression based on time/effort they put into challenges.
    5. Gamers plays for challenging Elements, and Wants more Enjoyable contents.
    6. Gamers don't play for Time Sink Elements, and Don't want A game to be a Chore!
    All Gamers Unite!

  10. #100
    Player Sureal's Avatar
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    we have been over this natenn, you dont want competition, just say it and i will leave forever

    say "i want to bottleneck other players"
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