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    Quote Originally Posted by Capn View Post
    Look! he's standing close to the fence! I'm gonna get him......! oh no! now he stepped back .5 yalms... now I gotta run around this long fence, taking 10 seconds before I can hit him.... ah crap I was almost there and now he's close to the fence again... even though I can see him right there in front of me... I'm gonna run back around the fence!


    yea... not an exploit.

    but everyone please do continue.. I'm laughing so hard at people rationalizing with the same basic idea that "It's not an exploit, it's taking advantage of a terrain tactic"
    Just fyi, not all pinning works that way. It is still an effective strategy even with just a simple rock to kite around. Pinning only became popular (and thus hated) with VNMs, when kaeko found the various spots, such as the ronfaure fence, etc, that worked as you described. However it has been used since the beginning of the game (and earlier, in other games, not to mention since the beginning of time in irl), because even without poor tracking AIs, it works. The time it takes for a mob (or person/animal/whatever) to react is all that is needed to create an advantage.

    But yes, it is an exploit, as i explained above.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rog View Post
    Just fyi, not all pinning works that way. It is still an effective strategy even with just a simple rock to kite around. Pinning only became popular (and thus hated) with VNMs, when kaeko found the various spots, such as the ronfaure fence, etc, that worked as you described. However it has been used since the beginning of the game (and earlier, in other games, not to mention since the beginning of time in irl), because even without poor tracking AIs, it works. The time it takes for a mob (or person/animal/whatever) to react is all that is needed to create an advantage.

    But yes, it is an exploit, as i explained above.
    Right, but pinning and circle kiting are different things. Circle kiting exploits mobs that don't run faster than you (with or without enhanced movement speed items). Pinning is an exploit in the pathing AI.

    Although now that I think about it, you're talking about pinning on one side of a rock or object, when you reach the central point between the the mob and the opposite corner. I remember doing this as cor with a blm friend on fortitude many times. while for the most part, I just kept running in a circle since I was solo a lot.
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