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    Player Andrien's Avatar
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    Cosmic Elucidation, here I come!
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    not enough info on how this would be implemented to really venture an opinion. We don't know what WS would be used (and there may be more introduced between 91-99) to make it, what kind of damage it would do, possibilities for self-sc, whether blue magic would be involved, can an automaton/avatar participate, how much damage, can u burst it, ALOT of questions. Still, it would be in keeping with expanding to accomodate they upper levels.
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  3. #23
    Player Gaiben's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Camate View Post
    We brought your feedback about level 4 skill chains to the development team and they responded that you are all a bunch of Tenzen wannabes.
    I am so a Tenzen wannabe. I want his awesome armor that has that Phoenix embroidery, I want his nifty avatar binding great katana, and totally want Phoenix as a summon. Thought I can wait until I am significantly higher level then then the man before I steal his pants and borrow his deity.
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  4. #24
    Player hiko's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leonlionheart View Post
    Well, I love this idea.

    One concern, won't it put Empyreans even FURTHER above everyone else?
    above normal weapon not above relic , Relic WS also have lvl3properties

    Quote Originally Posted by Glamdring View Post
    not enough info on how this would be implemented to really venture an opinion. We don't know what WS would be used (and there may be more introduced between 91-99) to make it, what kind of damage it would do, possibilities for self-sc, whether blue magic would be involved, can an automaton/avatar participate, how much damage, can u burst it, ALOT of questions. Still, it would be in keeping with expanding to accomodate they upper levels.
    yes they can add new WS that have a special properties and you need that properties to do lvl4, or just lvl3 properties so no relic/empy players can also lvl4
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    Last edited by hiko; 05-21-2011 at 01:54 AM.

  5. #25
    Player Linh's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Camate View Post
    We brought your feedback about level 4 skill chains to the development team and they responded that you are all a bunch of Tenzen wannabes. Okay, so maybe they didn’t really say that at all. They did however say that this is an awesome idea and would like to look into this for the future. Currently they are planning adjustments to the current skill chains to go along with the level cap increase to 99. After this takes place they will look in to the possibility, but keep in mind that skill chains are something that is related to every job and careful attention needs to given, even more so than individual job adjustments.
    Make it so the Level 4 Skillchain can kill a regular monster outright regardless of how many HP is left (like Zantetsuken).

    Make it so the Level 4 Skillchain deals damage equal to what a Level 3 Skillchain could do when used against a Notorious Monster but it suffers a greater elemental resistance penalty to ALL elements.

    Make it so you can Magic Burst any element on a Level 4 Skillchain.

    If you helped create a Level 4 Skillchain, you cannot help create it again for the next 3 minutes (you can still create Level 1 to 3 though).


    And also a general suggestion not really pertaining to Level 4 Skillchain:

    Extend the time allowed to create a Skillchain.
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    90 MNK. 90 BLM. 90 COR. 90 WAR.

    All POST-Abyssea LEECHED and proud of it.

    Cept MNK (Got up to 41 in 2009). All that time wasted camping Retaliators....

  6. #26
    Player Toren's Avatar
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    I would just prefer a new SC or two instead of Cosmic Elucidation.
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    Former Toren of Fairy

  7. #27
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    I think it would be cool to have different kinds of level 4 SC, including Cosmic Elucidation. They could have short term effects, or effects that works once to make it fair and balance. As appose to triggering some mobs weaknesses with different color stagger. How about;

    Lv4 SC that freezes the enemy. Like Terrorize.

    Another that prevents it from using abilities or TP moves.

    One that stops it from casting magic.

    Or something that makes it confused and occasionally attacks itself lol

    thoughts?
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  8. #28
    Player Volkai's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andrien View Post
    I think it would be cool to have different kinds of level 4 SC, including Cosmic Elucidation. They could have short term effects, or effects that works once to make it fair and balance. As appose to triggering some mobs weaknesses with different color stagger. How about;

    Lv4 SC that freezes the enemy. Like Terrorize.

    Another that prevents it from using abilities or TP moves.

    One that stops it from casting magic.

    Or something that makes it confused and occasionally attacks itself lol

    thoughts?
    Unless this effect would be part of a '!!' triggered by the skillchain, and not a part of the skillchain itself, it would break with the existing rules of what skillchains do.

    Additionally, we can't have more than one kind of level four skillchains, because of the way they are tiered. All skillchains align with an element, and the only possible elemental combination for level four is all eight elements.
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    "Don't take life too seriously, you can't get out of it alive."

    Adoulin is installed but still not lighting up on your title screen? Here's what to do:
    Go to https://secure.square-enix.com/account/app/svc/login?cont=account and log in, then Select Service >>> PlayOnline / FINAL FANTASY XI >>> Add a service account (blue button) >>> input expansion software registration code.

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    Nicely ranger-centric OP Ram. ^^
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    Quote Originally Posted by Volkai View Post
    we can't have more than one kind of level four skillchains, because of the way they are tiered. All skillchains align with an element, and the only possible elemental combination for level four is all eight elements.
    The effect could be based on the element used to close the level 4. There are may ways of implementation.

    Also, this doesn't have to be part of a trigger system to work. Currently, skillchains create an extra effect of damage. This "liquifaction" or "fusion" burst type effect could logically have an additional effect tacked on. There is code to add damage, so it's not far fetched to think they could put that snippet in.
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