Any new HNM coming?

[Natenn]

Thats my choice and what i chose to do. As many other ppl did, like i said: if you want easy content stay in abyssea. There will be new HNM, either 24hr+ pops or hard enough most ppl can't kill anyway. 21-24hr pops were nothing. Id be elated to do it again. every FF had HNM at endgame 7: The weapons. 8: Omega. 9: Ozma 10: The big thing in calm lands arena. 11: ??? 12: Dragon in Collaseum that takes hours to kill. 13: Titan trials. Trend dictates there will be a new hard HNM in 11. Hope it pops once a week in any zone.

[Sureal]

world pop hnm's are dumb and if you like them then you never camped, end of story

[Natenn]

World pops are for real gamers.

[Sureal]

and by gamers you mean botters right

[Starcade]

Is it really still competition when people bot? We enjoy the competition aspect of the game, but when people cheat their way to claims the system no longer works, and is no longer worth keeping around. It only serves to make botting hardcore LSs rich and I think the game has done enough for their ego over the past 9 years. There are severe problems with a MMO when players cannot progress fairly in the end game and must resort to paying cheaters for the items they want.

With that said, if for some reason SE feels they need to go the HNM route again, I want to see zone wide pops to make it impossible to bot.

Again:


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Listening, Square-Enix? Because that is what you are doing when you refuse to deal with bots, Windower, and all the other BS which has made your game a cheaters' paradise.

It almost gets to the point that you understand that this conduct is socially necessary for progression, and you sanction it by refusing to further gut endgame shells that you know should be gutted.

For this reason, I want no further HNMs in this game. There's too much freaking elitism as it is.

[Starcade]

and by gamers you mean botters right

No, he means "botters" = "real gamers".

They care not for integrity or fairness. They got the pop, you didn't. So us playing fair, in their eyes, can go FOAD, HAND, and STFU.

[Natenn]

even if ppl didn't bot you would still cry "bots!!!" Don't bash hnm just cause you couldn't tough it out.

[Orson]

You're comparing other FF's "endgame" to the haijin style of gaming that world spawn HNMs were? You do realize every world spawn HNM's deterrent was never really the difficultly of the monsters except for very early in their releases? The main deterrent to regular people to do HNMs was the fact that you had to live your freaking life around the time line of the game. You do remember that the other FFs allowed you to pick up and play whenever and had a freaking pause button!?

World spawn HNMs with out a shadow of a doubt were the worst thing ever added to this game. What made it worse, was and apparently is still, the inability of egotistical haijins like yourself to realize it as such. Pathetically perceiving that out claiming a group and denying them the opportunity to experience the content they were paying for was some how a victory for you. The fact that SE for the longest time refused to fix world spawn HNMs or out date them was one of the big reasons many people got tired and quit. They alleviated sky, sea, dynamis, etc. bottle necking because of the high influx of high level players into endgame. Yet they stubbornly refused to admit that HNMs needed the same treatment. This caused the game's gear and focus to stay stagnated on a pathetic game of whack a mole. Einherjar really came too little, too late. A lack luster effort to try and appease the majority of the community yet still keeping gear from half a decade old HNMs the best. If SE repeats their mistakes and puts the best gear in the game on a few 21+ hr HNMs that will be the nail in the coffin for this game.

Edit: Also don't give me, "oh you just didn't like HNMs because you sucked at them." I've beaten everything in this freaking game that matters and out claimed botters. Yes, you can do it if they suck at linking or don't pay attention their radar aps but when it happens it's because you got lucky. The small amount of dedication it takes to watch a screen every few minutes is minuscule in comparison to the fact that you can't actively do world spawns without forgoing a combination of a full time job, school, RL friends, and/or healthy romantic relationship.

[Natenn]

then quit QQ

[Runespider]

If they add new HNM put them in BNCM arenas, they can't control botters and they simply became required apps to participate. They can't even hide mobs properly, everyone runs around able to see the dead mobs in FFXI.

In a game where there are proper things in place to stop botting competitive spawns would be amazing and adds to the excitment, I loved HNM till my server was merged with another heavy botting one but after that it just became the best bots win as was the case on other busier servers. If the devs can't compete then they need to find other ways to offer content and it's been proven they can't.