Any new HNM coming?

[Gwynplaine]

Challenging HNM like Pandemonium Warden can be kinda cool. Just so long as they don't ever repeat the mistake of creating completely freely spawned HNM that require camping and claiming in some way.

[skoof]

For the record it is not impossible for a PS2 user to claim over a bot. all a good bot does is detect the pop on server and stager the linkshells claim actions to cover as many times in pop window as possible. if Mr. PS2 hits it when claim shield drops he wins, if the bot hits it at the time shield drops bot wins.

Yes because of the more precise coverage and staggering of times bots have a huge advantage over the rest of the player base. However by no means is it impossible to do. IF the bot was a guaruntee they would just nab the pop through claim shield and that would be it. Since we can all see claim shield stopping the first couple casts from claiming we know that this is not the case.

[Sureal]

exactly

while you MAY have beat 1 bot, hnmls's have never, i repeat, in bold no less, NO HNMLS HAS EVER CAMPED HNM'S WITH ONLY ONE BOT

[Burmecia]

exactly

while you MAY have beat 1 bot, hnmls's have never, i repeat, in bold no less, NO HNMLS HAS EVER CAMPED HNM'S WITH ONLY ONE BOT

Yep. >.> And on my server some linkshells "buddied up" together because they used the same bot. It was entertaining to see them say they were teaming up because they were "friends," but in the beginning they hated each others guts lol. But once they both started using the same bot they got together to outclaim everyone else's bot... :P

I dunno, it's just sad. I don't want to see FF11 ever go down that drama-filled road once more. e_e; But again, would love forced pop HNMs. Some new ones outside of abyssea would be awesome. ^_^

[Starcade]

exactly

while you MAY have beat 1 bot, hnmls's have never, i repeat, in bold no less, NO HNMLS HAS EVER CAMPED HNM'S WITH ONLY ONE BOT

You hear that, Square-Enix???

(And that's not an accusation to you personally...)

See the second half of my sig.

[klops]

the challenge should be in the fight, not the claim.

nonetheless, if you want a competitive fix, play sc2. the competitive mmo is a dying genre.

[Imakun]

HNMs camping needed to die in a fire a long time ago >_>
I loved my End-game LS, but when HNMs were due to pop in our time zone we just stood there doing nothing for the duration of the windows, most of the time getting nothing out of it and skipping other events witch could have actually helped us gear ourselves while at least moving around doing things.
How is camping fun? Claiming is fun?
What about actually fighting the damn thing? Yea, sure! I enjoyed battling HNMs but standing there for hours doing nothing is just retarded.
I heard people say "You can do something else while camping". Huh? Why would I want to do something else if I logged into the game in the first place?
Old HNMs system was stupid and outdated and should never see the light of the day again. Make new HNMs popped or even quested and make them hard to kill. Old HNMs weren't that much of a challenge, let's face it. Especially since they started rising the level cap.
I'm all for new giant stuff to kill, but everyone should have a chance at fighting them. Claiming wars have no place in this day and age of the game in my opinion.

Edit: Just to clarify.. yes, I really hated camping lol

[Defiledsickness]

lol well they still make you camp nms for the physical trials so i doubt they'll ever get rid of it. at this point its a part of history that behemoth and others pop when they do. cerberus is always up at least :P though i doubt anyone has ever camped stuff like YY Robe (just wait for maint :P). And sandworm is still good because the scorpion drops the White Talthum (1.5mil on my server). At least with a 99 cap when they make new HNM's they dont need long respawn timers, only to make them incredibly deadly. So claiming wont be the problem, surviving will ^^

[Alhanelem]

Any new HNM coming?

I sure hope not. HNMs and spending hours camping 30 minute windows such that all you could do was go afk for 29 minutes, be alert for 1, go afk another 29 minutes, it was just a huge waste of time. Anyone who thought that was fun seriously needs to re-examine what makes a game fun for them.

I did HNMs for a long time. I hated being in the middle of something or about to do something and then i see on LS "OMG TIAMAT POPPED EVERYONE HERE NOW!" only to rush over there and watch some LS spend 7 hours failing at killing it. I could have done something fun and productive for those 7 hours instead of hoping some other group would wipe.

[Sureal]

I sure hope not. HNMs and spending hours camping 30 minute windows such that all you could do was go afk for 29 minutes, be alert for 1, go afk another 29 minutes, it was just a huge waste of time. Anyone who thought that was fun seriously needs to re-examine what makes a game fun for them.

I did HNMs for a long time. I hated being in the middle of something or about to do something and then i see on LS "OMG TIAMAT POPPED EVERYONE HERE NOW!" only to rush over there and watch some LS spend 7 hours failing at killing it. I could have done something fun and productive for those 7 hours instead of hoping some other group would wipe.

so you've heard of Kazoku then lol