KI-popped-NM Stealing

[blowfin]

Here's a hint. Noone was specifically talking about dynamis when it came to battlefields.

Absolutely nobody?

If they are going to add battlefield status to abyssea NMs like the new dynamis stuff

like the new dynamis stuff

dynamis

[Tamoa]

1. Losing claim for whatever reason happens to us all. Like Eeek said, take it like a man.

2. If you repeatedly keep losing claim because you die or otherwise screw up - seriously, suck less.

3. If there really is a glitch that makes mobs randomly go unclaimed for no reason at all, it can't be happening very often because otherwise there would be 4237647625 forum members SCREAMING about it on this forum.

[Khajit]

Absolutely nobody?

A) improve your grammar comprehension.
B) Stop confirming you have no knowledge of what your talking about by being quiet. We get it. you don't understand a thing and barely understand English. Move on.
C) Read the bleeping manual. There's even an explanation on what the battlefield status is in it although the entire thing is self explanatory.

[blowfin]

A) improve your grammar comprehension.
B) Stop confirming you have no knowledge of what your talking about by being quiet. We get it. you don't understand a thing and barely understand English. Move on.

So nobody at all mentioned battlefield status in relation to Dynamis. That`s what i`m getting out of this. Unless proven otherwis.... oh wait.

P.S. It`s called reading comprehension by the way.

[Leonlionheart]

Well it's been said but I'll reiterate for the lulz:

Non-broken game dynamic does not need fixing.

I've lost Briareus, not because my LS sucks, but because we TP burned it down to 20% in like 30 seconds and got destroyed by colossal slam, our 1 WHM couldn't take the load. We'd done it before, but 2 2hours just took us out.

Did we QQ and rage? No, because we know what we did wrong and haven't lost a Briar since.

On the other hand we take mobs if the other group has disrespected us and/or is 100% weakened, meaning unless they have Mijin Gakure up there is no chance of success without constant zombying/HP'ing and regrouping- which we just won't wait for.

[Korpg]

If they are going to add battlefield status to abyssea NMs like the new dynamis stuff, I hope they add 10 minute depop timers as well. So I don't have to deal with people who shouldn't be fighting stuff taking 2 hours to zombie it to death.

What about me taking 30 minutes to defeat? Because that is about on average the amount of time it takes me to kill a mob as SMN in A-Altep. Am I zombie it to death? Depends if you consider 4 avatar deaths as zombie tactics.

Either way, by forcing a 10 minute time limit, you just limit different procs (you know that Shinryu's abyssite doesn't give out a hint every WS) and possibly a bad AoE or mistimed cure might cause the time limit to go over. I know, you never experience that because you are able to obtain all procs within 30 seconds of the mob's life, and the other 10 seconds is used to zerg it down. For those of us who don't have all that, 10 minutes can be a stretch. Soloists, almost impossible.

[Sama]

I've lost Briareus, not because my LS sucks, but because we TP burned it down to 20% in like 30 seconds and got destroyed by colossal slam, our 1 WHM couldn't take the load. We'd done it before, but 2 2hours just took us out.

My bottom line to this is: if the party is wiped completely, the KI-popped NM should at least remain in claimed for say 30-60 seconds, instead of the instantaneously unclaimed state when 13/18 of the alliance is still on their feet. You know there are people greedy enough to follow your group and wait for this moment.

Doing so, in case the party really want to zombie it, they may realized they suck and will stayed KO for 30-60 second, then someone else can take; at the same time, the other individual/group trying to steal will not be able to take it in the middle of the fight.

[Korpg]

Wrong on multiple counts. If the bst mischarms it has claim of the mob they tried to charm for one.
And I'm not sure on the second account but simply attempting to charm the new mob to throw at it probably loses claim on the NM.
That's not even getting into how if the bst gets more hate from a different monster the pet will move to the new monster and lose claim so the instant a bst gets aggro it has to ignore said aggro or risk losing claim while getting beat on.

Which, of course, wouldn't happen in Abyssea.

Unless you can charm mobs in there. Which I know you can't. Which is what this thread is talking about, KI-pop'd mobs.

[Leonlionheart]

My bottom line to this is: if the party is wiped completely, the KI-popped NM should at least remain in claimed for say 30 seconds, instead of the instantaneously unclaimed state when 17/18 of the alliance is still on their feet. You know there are people greedy enough to follow your group and wait for this moment.

Happens, but 2/3 times we get them back.

Treat others how they would treat you works in game, so does eye for an eye. If they get you, get them.

("Accidental" MPK works good.)

[Korpg]

You know there are people greedy enough to follow your group and wait for this moment.

Only Futchy has been known to do this tactic. Now that almost everyone knows who he is and what he is capable of doing, they usually already have a GM called on him if he starts hanging around your party/alliance.