KI-popped-NM Stealing

[blowfin]

So I'm not sure if pet swaps by themselves would affect claim.

They do, if you don`t get your new pet in quick enough or perform an action on the mob it will go yellow.

[Korpg]

personal experience with this:
1. pop mob
2. alliance starts fighting
3. mob turns yellow midway through fight (no deaths/dc's/disengages)
4. 14 counted re-claim actions post-yellow by the alliance
5. outside guy cast dia II and claims
6. alliance wipes due to having full hate to "purple" claimed NM
7. outside guy dies

You sure that the player didn't bothack that NM from you guys? That has happened in the past. People have been banned from doing that, but we all know how effective that really is.

[Korpg]

They do, if you don`t get your new pet in quick enough or perform an action on the mob it will go yellow.

You sure about that? I have never lost claim on a mob, unless I have my weapon out and the mob runs too far away for me to continue to attack it. But even then, that was in party situations.

When I'm soloing on SMN, if I know my avatar won't survive for long, I run far enough away from the mob where my avatar's lifebar is no longer on the screen, which is further than the "put away the weapon" point of losing claim, and resummon when the avatar dies. The mob is always claimed when it comes running to me. If it were to turn yellow, it would have a long time ago after my avatar died.

I'm sure that BST is the same way, except they can almost instantly put a new pet on the mob, unless they are also meleeing and have to run away far enough to disengage from the mob, right when their pet died, then I would see the mob turning yellow.

[Khajit]

Wrong on multiple counts. If the bst mischarms it has claim of the mob they tried to charm for one.
And I'm not sure on the second account but simply attempting to charm the new mob to throw at it probably loses claim on the NM.
That's not even getting into how if the bst gets more hate from a different monster the pet will move to the new monster and lose claim so the instant a bst gets aggro it has to ignore said aggro or risk losing claim while getting beat on.

[blowfin]

You sure about that?

When I'm soloing on SMN, if I know my avatar won't survive for long, I run far enough away from the mob where my avatar's lifebar is no longer on the screen, which is further than the "put away the weapon" point of losing claim, and resummon when the avatar dies. The mob is always claimed when it comes running to me. If it were to turn yellow, it would have a long time ago after my avatar died.

Yes, for BST that example is going to result in a yellow mob just about every time.

[wish12oz]

If they are going to add battlefield status to abyssea NMs like the new dynamis stuff, I hope they add 10 minute depop timers as well. So I don't have to deal with people who shouldn't be fighting stuff taking 2 hours to zombie it to death.

[blowfin]

So I don't have to deal with people who shouldn't be fighting stuff taking 2 hours to zombie it to death.

I love that, `people who shouldn`t be fighting stuff`: in an MMO. Epic lolz, how can you take yourself seriously when saying that?

With a battlefield status I`d assume that the NM`s would depop if the hate list was cleared. So zombie isn`t really that much of a plausible option anyway. Unless you`re good enough to pull it off, in which case you probably don`t need to zombie anyway.

See VNM/Voidwatch for an example.

[Khajit]

I love that, `people who shouldn`t be fighting stuff`: in an MMO. Epic lolz, how can you take yourself seriously when saying that?

With a battlefield status I`d assume that the NM`s would depop if the hate list was cleared. So zombie isn`t really that much of a plausible option anyway. Unless you`re good enough to pull it off, in which case you probably don`t need to zombie anyway.

See VNM/Voidwatch for an example.

The more you talk the less you appear to know about the game at all. Have you seriously never been in an bcnm to know how they work?

And while we're at it where is your understanding on basic context in human speech?

[wish12oz]

I love that, `people who shouldn`t be fighting stuff`: in an MMO. Epic lolz, how can you take yourself seriously when saying that?

With a battlefield status I`d assume that the NM`s would depop if the hate list was cleared. So zombie isn`t really that much of a plausible option anyway. Unless you`re good enough to pull it off, in which case you probably don`t need to zombie anyway.

See VNM/Voidwatch for an example.

Mobs don't instantly depop if you wipe, they walk back to their spawn point, and then stand there for a bit. And I guess you are on the side of people who spend 2 hours fighting something with an alliance I could solo in 10 minutes, so I guess you wouldn't understand what I mean. But the basic idea is that it's ignorant and rude to zombie hold stuff when people are waiting for you to be done, that's why they will steal it from you and kill it, not because they are bad selfish people, but because you are. (most of the time this is true anyway, there are some real jerks around)

[Rie]

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