[dev1002] Delivery System Destrier Beret

[Netheos]

Your numbers are flawed if you assume $13/month for each character, because mules (and secondary main characters) are $1/month. That may potentially alter your numbers by a considerable amount.

Instead of reacting to the statement with snark, why not modify your numbers to account for this? I'd like to see what the numbers are after taking into account the deactivated servers and the first character vs. additional character cost difference.

On a related note, did you actually mean 'Total Active Accounts', or should that have read as 'Total Active Characters'?

Went back and did some math,

Took all servers with 5000+ Active Accounts - 247,115

12.95 X 247,115 = 3,200,139.25

Lets just say for giggles that 1/3 Population is Mules.

This would make 82,290 Accounts MULES.

You take this number away from the grand total: 164,825 are paying 12.95 while 82,290 are accounted for $1.

164,825 X 12.95 = 2,134,483.75

82,290 X 1 = 82,290.00

Grand Total = $2,216,773.75
X12
Yearly ~ Total = $26,601,285.00

Sorry, I know there are a ton of numbers right there. The mule percentage is the only number I cannot honestly account for and can be more or less. I am sure we all get the idea though. I don't mean to get angry and fed up, but from a business standpoint as large as SE's, folks we honestly are just a number. And the only way to change the way things go is to not subscribe. You take the money away, you cut the head off of the snake. Some people have it in their head that SE really does care about what you as an individual has to say. Unfortunately, this shown through their customer service base and through decisions made at an executive level shows that this is untrue. Your PoL # is your identity with SE, fitting, you are a number. This isn't Joe's Bakery down the road in your local town, this is an empire that is solely trying to make a buck and will do just about anything to make it.

When I say this, it means, for example:

The new collection: $19.99 US DOL. This includes the all the content up until recently. And also an item to interest players that may be new to the game needing it to catch up to the action. It also attracts existing customers because it creates a NEED/WANT for this item included. They are using a 'Take-Away" Sales method with you as a consumer to entice you to spend more money. With you not being able to occupy this item, they believe they can use jealousy to buy it. More than you could believe in this population will purchase this collection just for the item. And their plan has worked. Not only are they getting the 12.95+ from you but also tack on that nice 19.99 as well.

As a consumer, it is your duty to recognize this when it happens. If you can distinguish your needs/wants better then they can pitch the item to you, you as the consumer wins. Getting angry in their forums is not going to solve anything. Yes, there is a chance someone may read this at some point and say "alright, new plan". But guess what, you are still not getting that item for free consumer. Be prepared to have to purchase this item at a different cost, right around the general range of $5.00. Or if they are feeling generous, may even give you the opportunity to purchase it in game. Judging by the recent statement in the press about losses, this will not happen. This company is looking for ANY chance to turn a profit.

let's discuss.

[Netheos]

Where'd you answer the question? Oh right, you didn't because you can't. Going off on a tangent about something else to deflect the question doesn't resolve the question no matter how hard you try. (Not even including your total lack of understanding about net income that has absolutely nothing to do with anything plus the fact that you seem to think they are making quite a good bit of money which is detrimental to your non-existant "argument" in that they are making an even larger grab at money by trying to lure people who have already paid for the content into buying said content yet again. You want to argue that? Then answer the question I popped without deflecting it, which is the heart of the matter that you and a few others seem to dodge at every turn.)

Edit: Oh and we're done with the LOUD NOISES? That's too bad, the yelling made you sound intelligent.

I did answer the question, in the first sentence? It doesn't negatively affect anyone.

[Sama]

This isn't Joe's Bakery down the road in your local town, this is an empire that is solely trying to make a buck and will do just about anything to make it.

This sounds terrible but very true; if that's the case, we should all united and be one to go against SE's stupid marketing tactics. We pay them for their food and shoes. Customer is always #1 and making a win-win situation is your priority!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! SE should know it!

I don't know what you are up to, again this is simply a SE's stupid decision, they can just make a +1 version for the n00b and everyone got the NQ hat, then all will be happy.

If i'm not wrong you are one of the players who pay SE for entertainment/joy/gaming, none of us wants to pay and get pissed you need to get that right.

I gave you a 'LIKE' not because I agree with you; you do got a point from greedy corporation point of view.

[Netheos]

This sounds terrible but very true; if that's the case, we should all united and be one to go against SE's stupid marketing tactics. We pay them for their food and shoes. Customer is always #1 and making a win-win situation is your priority!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! SE should know it!

I don't know what you are up to, again this is simply a SE's stupid decision, they can just make a +1 version for the n00b and everyone got the NQ hat, then all will be happy.

If i'm not wrong you are one of the players who pay SE for entertainment/joy/gaming, none of us wants to pay and get pissed you need to get that right.

I gave you a 'LIKE' not because I agree with you; you do got a point from greedy corporation point of view.

I am almost in the same boat, however a little different. I have 3 accounts, all active. I am buying the new collection for 2 of the 3. None of my accounts had the Abby/Scenario content on them. I saw this as an opportunity to save a little money on the Abby stuff as separately they would cost 10/each and I didn't have the scenarios. However, no more than 2 days before they made the announcement of the new collection I was extremely close to paying for the abbys one by one. The only thing that stopped me was a discussion in LS about leeching. I decided I didn't want to be a leech and at least go as high as I could before I couldn't get a regular XP party outside of Abby. Then, viola, new collection shows up.

ah forgot this part. When the abbys started coming out I saw them all coming out one after another, from a consumer standpoint, you had to guess eventually there would be a collection made. That was a few months ago though and I was ready to buy separately as stated above. That kind of goes back to what I was saying about Wants/Needs. I was a smart enough consumer to hold off on getting the items with the impression there would be a better deal when I was more suited for using it.

[Sama]

Took all servers with 5000+ Active Accounts - 247,115

12.95 X 247,115 = 3,200,139.25

Lets just say for giggles that 1/3 Population is Mules.

This would make 82,290 Accounts MULES.

You take this number away from the grand total: 164,825 are paying 12.95 while 82,290 are accounted for $1.

164,825 X 12.95 = 2,134,483.75

82,290 X 1 = 82,290.00

Based on your assumption: 164,825 ID who is pissed and go purchased the $20 for that hat, that's

164,825 x $20 = $3,296,500.00

So 3.3 million dollars for something you already paid for... Does that sound right to you? I don't think so... I guess you just got caught in the very good timing. Please thing of us who paid full price and before you know, you may be one of us in the very near future.

[Netheos]

Based on your assumption: 164,825 ID who is pissed and go purchased the $20 for that hat, that's

164,825 x $20 = $3,296,500.00

So 3.3 million dollars for something you already paid for... Does that sound right to you? I don't think so... I guess you just got caught in the very good timing. Please thing of us who paid full price and before you know, you may be one of us in the very near future.

As I can feel the frustration you are experiencing yes for over paying for content now discounted, I am however not suggesting that all of the population goes and buys the new content they already have. I stated that more of the population then we could probably guess will buy the content just for the item.

lol however, could you see the look on their faces at SE if all of the current subscribers did go buy that? OMG that would be terrible. They would all have Grinch smiles on.

[Volkai]

Based on your assumption: 164,825 ID who is pissed and go purchased the $20 for that hat, that's

164,825 x $20 = $3,296,500.00

So 3.3 million dollars for something you already paid for... Does that sound right to you? I don't think so... I guess you just got caught in the very good timing. Please thing of us who paid full price and before you know, you may be one of us in the very near future.

Look at it this way: 3.3 million dollars of potential revenue Square-Enix loses by giving the Destrier Beret to all existing players.

[Netheos]

Look at it this way: 3.3 million dollars of potential revenue Square-Enix loses by giving the Destrier Beret to all existing players.

Well said.

[Claquesous]

I too was very upset when I found out the Destrier Beret didn't go to all of my characters.

SE, please at least make this deliverable.

[Duzell]

Hey Camate were calling you out, how bout a comment here please.