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    Player Zyeriis's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Netheos View Post
    What aren't you getting about this...THE ITEM IS NOT FOR EXISTING SUBSCRIBERS. It is meant to draw in NEW subscribers. WTF MAN.
    LOUD NOISES.

    Now how does existing customers, who already paid for the content and the monthly fees that keep the game going long enough to be able to release such things in the first place, getting the very same item negatively affect people who don't play the game again?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duzell View Post
    Please add the Destrier Beret to the list of sendable items, It is unfair to expect us to spend $20 for every character we want to have this hat on the same account. The hat should have been given to all characters on the same account like the charity cap.

    For those that don't know the Destrier Beret is a bonus item for buying the ultimate abyssea edition, but when using the code you may only select 1 character to give the hat to. Since the system to obtain the hat is now already in place the only fix is to make it sendable to our alternate characters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zyeriis View Post
    LOUD NOISES.

    Now how does existing customers, who already paid for the content and the monthly fees that keep the game going long enough to be able to release such things in the first place, getting the very same item negatively affect people who don't play the game again?

    It doesn't negatively anyone because SE says what it is and the players don't. If the players want to run the company, get a job. If they wanted everyone to receive the item they would. It's just like on FFXIV and the CE Hat, not everyone gets it because they didn't purchase that specific package. It's not SE's fault that you have been playing this game this long and they came up with a great marketing strategy that made their current players jealous of the buyers of this package. You are a number, unfortunately you are not the number that will be receiving this item, that is unless they bend to the "omg i am so angry that I didnt receieve a hat! I have been here forever; since the beginging! Man you guys suck! This game is going in the wrong direction! blah blah blah."

    Here is a great tid bit of information to relax that mush in your head. Maybe this will make you realize that you ARE JUST A NUMBER:

    All database numbers are from FFXIAH.com and updated frequently:

    Total Active Accounts: 300,530
    SE Monthly Fee for FFXI: 12.95

    300,530X12.95 = $3,891,863.50

    3,891,863.50 x 12 (Months) = $46,702,362.00

    I would be willing to bet, they could get away without your 12.95. So if you are pissed that you aren't being taken care of as a long time customer, write a letter, lose you account, and GTFO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronin View Post
    they are trying to recover from major financial losses.
    I'm pretty sure that FFXI alone has generated enough funds that these "major financial losses" you speak of, are comparable to a commoner losing a dollar. For them to be running FFXIV as an extended beta should say something about how much that "major financial loss" isn't as major as you'd think.

    Sure they want the games they produced to succeed and we are fortunate to be in an age that they are trying to communicate with us directly, but no one should get over their heads. They don't owe the players anything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Miiyo View Post
    I'm pretty sure that FFXI alone has generated enough funds that these "major financial losses" you speak of, are comparable to a commoner losing a dollar.
    You'd think so, but that's because you're not taking into account operating cost. You're looking at the gross value, not the net value.
    For them to be running FFXIV as an extended beta should say something about how much that "major financial loss" isn't as major as you'd think.
    It's definitely a major cost. But the plan is that eventually FFXIV with its subscription costs will have a large gross income and will eventually net significant profits, as FFXI did and does. But the longer XIV remains free, the larger a hole it will have to dig itself out of.

    Sure they want the games they produced to succeed and we are fortunate to be in an age that they are trying to communicate with us directly, but no one should get over their heads. They don't owe the players anything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Netheos View Post
    It doesn't negatively anyone because SE says what it is and the players don't. If the players want to run the company, get a job. If they wanted everyone to receive the item they would. It's just like on FFXIV and the CE Hat, not everyone gets it because they didn't purchase that specific package. It's not SE's fault that you have been playing this game this long and they came up with a great marketing strategy that made their current players jealous of the buyers of this package. You are a number, unfortunately you are not the number that will be receiving this item, that is unless they bend to the "omg i am so angry that I didnt receieve a hat! I have been here forever; since the beginging! Man you guys suck! This game is going in the wrong direction! blah blah blah."

    Here is a great tid bit of information to relax that mush in your head. Maybe this will make you realize that you ARE JUST A NUMBER:

    All database numbers are from FFXIAH.com and updated frequently:

    Total Active Accounts: 300,530
    SE Monthly Fee for FFXI: 12.95

    300,530X12.95 = $3,891,863.50

    3,891,863.50 x 12 (Months) = $46,702,362.00

    I would be willing to bet, they could get away without your 12.95. So if you are pissed that you aren't being taken care of as a long time customer, write a letter, lose you account, and GTFO.
    Your numbers are flawed, FFXIAH still hasn't removed the retired servers, some people are and will be counted twice for 90 days or so, and you're not accounting for account mules either.
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    Especially now that mules show up on the global AH, so every mule can be counted now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sruon View Post
    Your numbers are flawed, FFXIAH still hasn't removed the retired servers, some people are and will be counted twice for 90 days or so, and you're not accounting for account mules either.
    So mules are on the game for free now? That's interesting. So take away the old servers from the numbers yourself, even take 1/3 of the population and count it as $1. You are still going to be banking nicely. You are still a number.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Netheos View Post
    So mules are on the game for free now? That's interesting. So take away the old servers from the numbers yourself, even take 1/3 of the population and count it as $1. You are still going to be banking nicely. You are still a number.
    Your numbers are flawed if you assume $13/month for each character, because mules (and secondary main characters) are $1/month. That may potentially alter your numbers by a considerable amount.

    Instead of reacting to the statement with snark, why not modify your numbers to account for this? I'd like to see what the numbers are after taking into account the deactivated servers and the first character vs. additional character cost difference.

    On a related note, did you actually mean 'Total Active Accounts', or should that have read as 'Total Active Characters'?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Netheos View Post
    It doesn't negatively anyone because SE says what it is and the players don't. If the players want to run the company, get a job. If they wanted everyone to receive the item they would. It's just like on FFXIV and the CE Hat, not everyone gets it because they didn't purchase that specific package. It's not SE's fault that you have been playing this game this long and they came up with a great marketing strategy that made their current players jealous of the buyers of this package. You are a number, unfortunately you are not the number that will be receiving this item, that is unless they bend to the "omg i am so angry that I didnt receieve a hat! I have been here forever; since the beginging! Man you guys suck! This game is going in the wrong direction! blah blah blah."

    Here is a great tid bit of information to relax that mush in your head. Maybe this will make you realize that you ARE JUST A NUMBER:

    All database numbers are from FFXIAH.com and updated frequently:

    Total Active Accounts: 300,530
    SE Monthly Fee for FFXI: 12.95

    300,530X12.95 = $3,891,863.50

    3,891,863.50 x 12 (Months) = $46,702,362.00

    I would be willing to bet, they could get away without your 12.95. So if you are pissed that you aren't being taken care of as a long time customer, write a letter, lose you account, and GTFO.
    Where'd you answer the question? Oh right, you didn't because you can't. Going off on a tangent about something else to deflect the question doesn't resolve the question no matter how hard you try. (Not even including your total lack of understanding about net income that has absolutely nothing to do with anything plus the fact that you seem to think they are making quite a good bit of money which is detrimental to your non-existant "argument" in that they are making an even larger grab at money by trying to lure people who have already paid for the content into buying said content yet again. You want to argue that? Then answer the question I popped without deflecting it, which is the heart of the matter that you and a few others seem to dodge at every turn.)

    Edit: Oh and we're done with the LOUD NOISES? That's too bad, the yelling made you sound intelligent.
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