Add New Jobs to Relic Weapons - Past Due for an Explanation

I'm sure I could find a paragraph somewhere in Harry potter of someone actually getting hit with a wand.

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Originally Posted by Greatguardian

People need to get off this "PLD has A club" business. They can't use hammers. Period. Mjollnir is a hammer. Problem: Solved.

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DRG used to be restricted from plate armor and now they are not.

That was clearly because Elvaans and SE hate dragoons more than Eastern Ninjas.

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The shape and the damage rating compared to other clubs at their level clearly place these in the "hammer" class. The argument that DNC should get Mandau because they can already use a few dagger type weapons can also be used to argue that PLD should have Mjollnir for the same reason.

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Once again, wrong. I'm not saying that Dancer should use Mandau just because they can use dagger. I'm saying that dancer should use Mandau because they are a primarily a dagger class job.

Paladins already have Excalibur, Aegis, and Ragnarok. They don't need club. Also, to even suggest that Paladin should be able to use Mjollinr, is completely asinine. They don't primarily use clubs, they use swords, and they don't need access to anymore relics than what they already have. Why is this even being suggested in the first place?

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DNC can't use any of the "parrying knife" class of daggers with one exception, and only that because it's a Magian weapon.

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Incorrect. They are indeed able to equip the dagger that has the same shape with that of Parrying Knife, even the the said Parrying Knife as well. Also examples: Heart Snatcher, and Main Gauche off the top of my head.

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Originally Posted by Atomic_Skull

DRG used to be restricted from plate armor and now they are not.

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DNC used to be restricted from Mandau and - ohhh. I see. This only works one way.

I have no idea what is going on in this topic at this point, so I'm just going to post my own picture of a club.
http://img.foodnetwork.com/FOOD/2009...ub_s4x3_lg.jpg

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Originally Posted by Greatguardian

This is like arguing over whether or not Adargas should be classified as Cesti =/.

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http://wiki.ffo.jp/img/6470/Adargas.jpg

There really are weapon classes that may only have one or two examples in the entire game. Classifying Jadagnas as Mauls/Hammers is just bad form. They're Jadagnas, like Adargas are Adargas.

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This post says it all. There is no reading past this required. Sometimes there's just two examples of a weapon type, just the way it is. Jadagnas are just jadagnas.

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Originally Posted by SpankWustler

I have no idea what is going on in this topic at this point, so I'm just going to post my own picture of a club.
http://img.foodnetwork.com/FOOD/2009...ub_s4x3_lg.jpg

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No, actually, this says it all. This picture has more relevance to my life that anything that was said in between these two posts.

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Originally Posted by Suirieko

They don't primarily use clubs, they use swords, and they don't need access to anymore relics than what they already have. Why is this even being suggested in the first place?

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That's only because of the players. SE obviously intended PLD to use club and sword equally or they wouldn't have an A rank in both.

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Originally Posted by Atomic_Skull

That's only because of the players. SE obviously intended PLD to use club and sword equally or they wouldn't have an A rank in both.

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no its because of club and ws available

give PLD hexastrike and a good DDclub and you'll see more (no almace/exca) PLDs using clubs

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Originally Posted by SpankWustler

I have no idea what is going on in this topic at this point, so I'm just going to post my own picture of a club.
http://img.foodnetwork.com/FOOD/2009...ub_s4x3_lg.jpg

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Thats not a club. Its clearly a sandwich. "A sandwich is a food item, typically consisting of two or more slices of bread with one or more fillings between them, or one slice of bread with a topping or toppings, commonly called an open sandwich."

http://www.politecompanycomic.com/wp...wich-Plate.jpg

See, clubs are cut into 4 pieces and held together with frilly toothpicks, and that's why Paladins can't eat them. they always choke on the toothpicks. :p No relic club for you mr. paladin.

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Originally Posted by FrankReynolds

Thats not a club. Its clearly a sandwich. "A sandwich is a food item, typically consisting of two or more slices of bread with one or more fillings between them, or one slice of bread with a topping or toppings, commonly called an open sandwich."

http://www.politecompanycomic.com/wp...wich-Plate.jpg

See, clubs are cut into 4 pieces and held together with frilly toothpicks, and that's why Paladins can't eat them. they always choke on the toothpicks. :p No relic club for you mr. paladin.

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It looks really delicious.

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Originally Posted by Rukkirii

I tried T_T but I shall try again just for you! I'll post an update if I get more info.

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Hi Rukkirii,

Would you please provide an update on this? Has the Dev team provided any further details regarding the addition of new jobs to relics? Some of us newer jobs are still itching to be able to use a relic like the rest of the playerbase! :)

Thanks,
Rayna

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Originally Posted by Zagen

I hope you're trolling...

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melee rdm's are (sadly) not trolls

Can't really see why they shouldn't add each job to it's corresponding weapon. Seems weird that ToAU/WotG jobs get relic gear without a weapon to go with it if you ask me?

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Originally Posted by Tavien

Can't really see why they shouldn't add each job to it's corresponding weapon. Seems weird that ToAU/WotG jobs get relic gear without a weapon to go with it if you ask me?

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Clearly the problem is a balance issue.

Ah yes, balance. How silly of me XD

Tanaka is a Libra...he must be.

http://i.imgur.com/QHbLy.jpg

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Originally Posted by Alhanelem

Since when was it not possible to use a "metalworking tool" as a weapon? The pen on my desk right now makes a good stabbing weapon if I want it to be one.

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Your definition of good is questionable. I'll take the scissors.

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Originally Posted by Briarb19

Hi Rukkirii,

Would you please provide an update on this? Has the Dev team provided any further details regarding the addition of new jobs to relics? Some of us newer jobs are still itching to be able to use a relic like the rest of the playerbase! :)

Thanks,
Rayna

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You aren't fooling anyone with your necrobump.

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Originally Posted by Atomic_Skull

You aren't fooling anyone with your necrobump.

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Last Community Rep said they were going to talk to the Dev again about this. I'm following up on that. By all means, please let the discussion end there. Thanks.