Thoughts on the FFXI Job Adjustment Manifesto

blizzard > nocto = compression + mb kaustra does work. kaustra and helix do stack, helix wearing before kaustra effect.

skillchain mb took maybe 10% or a little more of marvins hp.

helix wore at about 30% of his hp. and kaustra took him down to about 10-15% hp. quite impressive if you ask me.

level one skillchains are the way to go in terms of efficiency.

screenshot shows helix wearing before kaustra effect to verify that they do stack:kaustra and helix stack

id also like to note that kaustra dmg is determined by int and duration is determined by dark magic skill.

"Here are a couple of things related to Kaustra that you all have been quickly trying out on the test server.

• Kaustra’s DoT effect is not activating
This was listed in the confirmed bugs on the test server, but we confirmed that if Kaustra is used on an unclaimed monster (yellow name), a problem occurs where the damage over time will not activate. We are planning to fix this.

Make sure that when you change your level or jobs via the =TEST= Moogle GM in your mog house that you check to make sure your skill levels are raised.

When job changing via the Moogle GM, depending on the job combination you select, there are cases where the maximum skill will not be set properly.*

*Specifically, when the job your are changing into does not have the same skills as the previous job, the skill value will not be set properly.

Since Kaustra’s damage over time effect duration depends on your dark magic skill, if it is zero it will deal no damage over time.

In order to avoid any confusion, when job changing at the Moogle GM please make sure to reset your level once again. This will ensure that your job has the maximum skill values (blue numbers).

• Kaustra isn’t dealing damage
Kaustra was designed with the idea that it deals initial damage plus damage over time, but for the initial damage, INT plays more of a role as a damage modifier than magic attack bonus, making the spell stronger.

If you feel like that initial hit isn’t dealing much damage, make sure to check your equipment. As stated above, don’t forget to check you dark magic skill!"

once again, very interesting stuff here. ill edit my post later to test duration with varying skill levels. and i guess i can do initial damage too, but if there is anyone else out there on the servers, feel free to test it also.

Was it really necessary to repost information that was posted just three pages ago?

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level one skillchains are the way to go in terms of efficiency.

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Aero V > Noctohelix = Gravitation seems like a better option to me.
Though if Blizzard Vs cast time isn't an issue (I don't like to assume) I suppose it would win out in terms of raw damage.

yea that one works too. just as long as the second spell in the chain and magic burst spell are of the same element so we can have the skillchain and the burst benefit from the weather we are wearing. at that point, i believe that is maximum efficiency. there are many combos that do work.

Ok I did some Kaustra testing today to test out the effect of int:

-None of these test were done on Darksday
-None of these test used kilmaform, voidstorm, or Ebullience unless stated
-Only parsimony and alacrity were used unless stated otherwise
-Each test was done twice on two different lvl 0 mob types(mandies and bees) in Sarutabaruta to ensure consistancy.
-Crap I forgot to take note of my dark magic skill geared, however no dark magic skill geared was used unless noted. So dark magic skill = lvl 95 SCH with dark arts up. No dark magic skill merits. I believe it was around 376, in my dark skill test coming later I was wearing af3+1 body, relic legs and the aesir torque and had 405 skill, so working backwards that should put me at 376.

Job: 95 SCH/BLM
Race = Tarutartu
Base Int = 106 (8 int merits)

Test 1 - No gear
Kaustra Damage - 543

Test 2 - No gear - Voidstorm (3 int stormsurge)
Kaustra Damage - 548

Test 3 - Anrin Obi - Voidstorm(3 int stormsurge)
Kausta Damage - 602

Conclusion so far - Unlike helixes, Kaustra does not automatically gain the storm bonus without obi.

Test 4 - 7 int(Icesoul Ring)
Total Int = 106 +7 = 113
Kaustra Damage = 564

Test 5 - 10 int(Icesoul Ring + snow pearl)
Total Int = 116
Kaustra Damage = 575

Test 6 = 17 int (Icesoul ring x2 + snow pearl)
Total Int = 123
Kaustra Damage = 601

Test 7 = 20 int (Ring x2 + snow pearl x2)
Total Int = 126
Kaustra Damage = 612

Test 8 = Full int gear, 0 MAB in gear, no staff
Total Int = 183
Kaustra Damage = 829

Test 9 = Full geared (please refer to full gear set at end of this post)
Total Int = 155, Total MAB = 39 from gear, No klimaform or Ebullience yet
Twilight Cape, obi, weather
Kaustra Damage = 1242

Test 10 - Same as above + klimaform and ebullience
Total int = 150 (Dropped 5 from hat change for ebullience), Total mab from gear = 39
Kaustra damage = 1734

Test 11 - Remove all gear and replace with dark magic skill gear, no buffs
Total int = 106+8, Dark magic skill = 405 (wearing af1+1 body, relic legs and aesir neckpiece)
Kaustra Damage = 570

Conclusion from test 11 - dark magic skill probably does not increase damage. If it does, it is not noticeable at all.

Test 12 - no gear. no buffs, 3 monsters, Manifestation
Base int = 106, 0 mab
Kaustra Damage on all 3 mobs = 406

Test 13 - no gear, no buffs, 10 monsters, manifestation
Base int = 106, 0 mab
Kaustra damage on 9/10 mobs = 217
1 mob half resisted me for around 108

Edit: I posted post so it wouldn't accidently get deleted halfway through and I'd have to rewrite everything, here is the rest of it.

Full gear set for test 9 and 10:
Pluto's Staff (Don't laugh >.>)
Elemental Grip (Don't laugh >.>)
Witchstone
Scholar mortarboard +1 (Changed to Savant's Bonnet +2 for test 10)
Savant's Chain
Novio earring
Hecates earring
Savants Gown +2
Vicious mufflers
Iceosul ring
Strendu Ring
Twilight Cape
Anrin Obi
Cybele Pants (Is this the right spelling? the 10 int ones from smok)
Savant's feet +2

So this is all i was able to get for now/think of recording. If you want more data for calculations let me know.

Edit 2 for comparison:
Did a Blizzard V in the same full gear set, switching to aquilo's staff and hyorin obi and hail storm.
With klimaform and ebullience Blizzard V did 3699.
Cryohelix did 479.

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Originally Posted by Pebe

Test 11 - Remove all gear and replace with dark magic skill gear, no buffs
Total int = 106+8, Dark magic skill = 405 (wearing af1+1 body, relic legs and aesir neckpiece)
Kaustra Damage = 570

Conclusion from test 11 - dark magic skill probably does not increase damage. If it does, it is not noticeable at all.

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skill will only effect duration of the spell. tested it in an earlier post.

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Originally Posted by Pebe

Base Int = 106 (8 int merits)

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I hate you.

/jelly

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Originally Posted by Pebe

Ok I did some Kaustra testing today to test out the effect of int:

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Excellent tests, thanks. Can you test next time if maximum MP affects it? Considering it always consumes 30% of the maximum, it isn't unreasonable to think that the more MP spent, the better the effect. 2-3 tests with different MP totals with the same INT would suffice, I guess.

I can say with confidence mp doesn't affect it. I parsimony/alacrity Kaustra'd about 6 times per 2hr (yes this is possible, it's recast is extremely low with alacrity), i started at around 1100 mp and ended with about 300 mp. The results remained un changed. Actually now that you mention it, i forgot to post that before I did all this testing I did a few kaustra's in a row in 1 2hr just to make sure the damage was consistant and to see how many kaustras i could get off.

The next thing I plan to test when i get around to it is kaustra's skillchain property, if it has one, I'm hoping that it is gravitation and not compression. Darkness skillchain via magic, yes please! Might be able to pull a magic burst to the skillchain as well since kaustra's recast is so low with alacrity. Although would probably need haste and fast gear to precast it in to lower that recast a little bit more. It might just be possible since Kaustra's animation takes forever and a day and there is a delay before the darkness skillchain appears.

I actually mean that the base MP cost can affect it. Parsimony cuts the MP consumption, but the base cost remains the same. I don't know if max MP will affect it, of course, but I think it isn't a ridiculous idea, either.

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Originally Posted by TimeMage

I actually mean that the base MP cost can affect it. Parsimony cuts the MP consumption, but the base cost remains the same. I don't know if max MP will affect it, of course, but I think it isn't a ridiculous idea, either.

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I wouldn't be surprised if MP affected it either but I'm really hoping it won't. Um...

Mordru starts casting Voidstorm on Mordru
Mordru uses a Lucid Ether III
Mordru uses Dark Arts
Mordry uses Parsimony
Mordru uses Alacrity
Mordru uses Ebullience
Mordru uses Manifestation
Mordru uses Tabula Rasa
Mordru starts casting Kaustra on the Akrab
Mordru hits 3 more macros to equip bonnet, obi, and INT or dark gear depending on whether I want large initial damage or more ticks.

Meanwhile the BLM has already killed all the mobs with Blizzaja.

Take the Lucid Ether III part out and we're a little more balanced.

Seriously, with all the reigns on this 2-hour only spell already, that doesn't even seem that impressive numerically, having the damage gimped by lower MP would make me insane. They can't even decide what to call Merton/Kaustra/Klaustra/Kamasutra yet, please not another roadblock.

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Originally Posted by Pebe

The next thing I plan to test when i get around to it is kaustra's skillchain property, if it has one, I'm hoping that it is gravitation and not compression. Darkness skillchain via magic, yes please! Might be able to pull a magic burst to the skillchain as well since kaustra's recast is so low with alacrity. Although would probably need haste and fast gear to precast it in to lower that recast a little bit more. It might just be possible since Kaustra's animation takes forever and a day and there is a delay before the darkness skillchain appears.

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It doesn't work with Immanence. Look at my post a while back. It's under Edit #4. http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/th...l=1#post182771

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I wouldn't be surprised if MP affected it either but I'm really hoping it won't. Um...

Mordru starts casting Voidstorm on Mordru
Mordru uses a Lucid Ether III
Mordru uses Dark Arts
Mordry uses Parsimony
Mordru uses Alacrity
Mordru uses Ebullience
Mordru uses Manifestation
Mordru uses Tabula Rasa
Mordru starts casting Kaustra on the Akrab
Mordru hits 3 more macros to equip bonnet, obi, and INT or dark gear depending on whether I want large initial damage or more ticks.

Meanwhile the BLM has already killed all the mobs with Blizzaja.

Take the Lucid Ether III part out and we're a little more balanced.

Seriously, with all the reigns on this 2-hour only spell already, that doesn't even seem that impressive numerically, having the damage gimped by lower MP would make me insane. They can't even decide what to call Merton/Kaustra/Klaustra/Kamasutra yet, please not another roadblock.

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Damage would be based off the spells MP cost which is 30% of your maximum MP. Casting with 400MP when you have 1000MP should be exactly the same as casting with 1000MP. Casting with 400MP when your max is 1100MP should do more than casting with 1000MP when your max is 1000MP. As far as I know no one has tested this by stacking MP gear (Pluviale springs to mind).
I'm not going to dig it up, but I saw someone post that Embravas Regen/Regain/Haste was based off maximum MP and Enhancing skill, it doesn't seem too unlikely Kaustra would be the same assuming that source is correct.

Ty Eric, Sorry I missed that. Kind of sucks though Q.Q

And sorry I was misunderstanding what you meant by maximum mp. I'll try to test it out if no ones beats me to it :P But, my crysta billed today and i don't know if there is money in my account >.>. And whether or not that will restrict me on the test server, time to find out!

Edit: If max mp does affect it, that would explain why i can't do as much damage as that dang sch in the video, and also why we was nuking in hvergelmir. I know the could have just tweak the damage for video purposes, but you never know! As soon as this dang update finishes i'll see what i can find out.

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Originally Posted by Sotek

Damage would be based off the spells MP cost which is 30% of your maximum MP. Casting with 400MP when you have 1000MP should be exactly the same as casting with 1000MP. Casting with 400MP when your max is 1100MP should do more than casting with 1000MP when your max is 1000MP. As far as I know no one has tested this by stacking MP gear (Pluviale springs to mind).
I'm not going to dig it up, but I saw someone post that Embravas Regen/Regain/Haste was based off maximum MP and Enhancing skill, it doesn't seem too unlikely Kaustra would be the same assuming that source is correct.

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THANK YOU, I though no one understood what I was saying. More max MP = more MP per cast consumed = higher damage???

ok max mp kaustra testing.

-All tests use alacrity and parsimony unless stated otherwise

LVL 95 SCH/BLM
Base Int = 106
Base MP = 1002
Dark magic skill = 376

Test 1 - Naked
Kaustra = 543

Test 2 - Pluviale
Max mp = 1102
Kaustra = 543

Test 3 - Full MP Gear(I made sure absolutely no stats known to effect kaustra were in this set)
Max mp = 1447
Base Int = 106
Dark magic skill = 376
Kaustra = 543
Note - I wore morgana's choker during this test so I had -5 mind, which was different from usual. Since there was absolutely no change in damage, we can assume that mind does not affect this spell, unless it affects Dot, which I doubt. This is as expected but just a verification.

Test 4 - Same set up as above, but did not use parsiomony. I wanted to test to see if parsimony cutting the mp used in half affected Kaustra's damage. I assumed no from the results of Test 1-3 but just wanted to make sure.
Kaustra - 543

Conclusion: Current MP, MAX MP, Mind, and Parsimony all do not affect Kaustra's initial damage. (Thank God) However, I am unsure if any of these will affect the duration of the DoT along with dark magic skill. That remains to be tested.

Edit: (Just posting test results before gear so it didn't get accidently deleted like what happened to me a few times. My computer likes to go back pages by accident, making me lose everything I was in the middle of posting.)
Full mp gear set:
Savant's Bonnet +2
Pluviale
Vate's Cape (the 22 hp to mp one with -7 enmity)
Serpentes cuffs
Serpentes saboots
Goliard trews (I beleive this is what the pants are called)
Bifrost ring
Dusksoul ring (the one from the moogle)
Gifted Earring (the one from t3 vnm in grauberg)
loq earring
Morgana's Choker

Random thought - I should have done testing with max mp and the distrubution of damage via manifestation as a result of max mp. I doubt it will affect it at all, so I'll only test this if someone thinks it viable or if I'm bored and decide to get around to it :P !

Btw, Sotek where did you find the post about Embrava and mp? Now I'm curious since Kaustra isn't affected by mp, unless i did something horribly wrong :P

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Originally Posted by Pebe

Btw, Sotek where did you find the post about Embrava and mp? Now I'm curious since Kaustra isn't affected by mp, unless i did something horribly wrong :P

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http://www.ffxiah.com/forum/topic/24...ava/2/#1518747

Ty! Btw Raksha, You may be jealous of my sexy taru int, but my jealousy of your signature knows no bounds +.-

Thanks a bunch, Pebe, it's clear that max MP doesn't affect it at all. Sooooo, it's INT for damage (MAB will play a factor too, of curse), and Dark magic skill for effect duration.

Some very incomplete Embrava testing (Did not test haste, focused on regen and regain). I decided to do this test after they said they lowered the requirements to hit tiers of embrava.

-This test tests Enhancing magic skill, Mind, and MP, and thier how they affect Embrava
-All tests use only celerity and penury unless stated otherwise
-Lvl 95 SCH/BLM (warp purposes <.<)

Test 1: No Gear
-Enhancing Magic skill - 376
-Max MP - 1002
-Mind - 77
Embrava - Regen = 54, Regain = 4

Test 2: Enhancing Gear
-Enhancing Magic Skill - 418
-Mind - 92
-Max MP = 1345
Embrava - Regen = 60, Regain = 5

Notes - In this test enhancing,mp, and mind all increase making it very inconclusive. I realized this, but decided to keep it in after the results of my next test. I believe enhancing is what made the increase in embrava here. You'll see why soon.

Abyssea Tests~

Test 3
Enhancing magic - 418
Max Mp - 2057
Mind - 92
Embrava - Regen = 60, Regain = 5

Notes - As you can see from this test, there was about a 700 increase in mp, without an increase in mind or enhancing magic, but no increase in embrava. So it can be concluded that either enhancing or mind made the difference in test 2. What led me to believe that mind plays a role is that when the person who tested in ffxiah said he did test in abyssea he did not specify whether or not he only got mp buffs like i did in this test or other buffs as well. Since mp doesn't seem to play a huge role, I assumed another factor was adding to embrava and that led me to mind. The poster who tested on ffxiah said he also saw an increase when he used a brew. Which led me to believe that it either took a huge amount of mp to see increases or an increase in mind since brew also gives capped mind. (I'm assuming mind since int effects kaustra, it was the first thing that came to mind. Heck, it could even be affected by chr...) Which leads us to test 6! But before that, test 4 and 5 test the affects of penury and rapture on Embrava.

Test 4 - Same as test 3, without the use of penury (Remember all tests use penury and celerity unless otherwise stated)
Embrava - Regen = 60, Regain = 5
Conclusion = Penury doesn't affect Embrava potency. We couldn't rule this out automatically because of test 3 because we are still unsure as to whether or not a really large mp boost does indeed affect embrava. Although, whether it does or not serves no purpose because it is unrealistic to reach those values without a brew.

Test 5 - Only Rapture is used in this test (Didn't have time to penury or celerity, 2hr was wearing off soon! Although, because of test 4, not having penury on shouldn't make a difference)
Embrava - Regain = 5.

Notes = Now I was unable to get the regen values for this one. I forgot to record them before my hp maxed out. 60 hp a tic caps out a mages hp fast >.>. But there was no new tier on regain, so i'm going to say rapture doesn't affect Embrava but I am not sure.

Post Break - I am posting this now to save it, I need to use bathroom! Mind testing will be posted in about 15 mins!

Edit: Here is the rest

Test 6
Enhancing magic - 418
MP = 1345 (just in case, i brought my mp back down)
Mind=202

Embrava:
Regen = 66 (hmmmm......)
Regain = 5 (hmmm.. no change.... -.-)

Notes - this is where things got confusing, you'll see after next test

Test 7 - Aurastorm
-Same as above but with aurastorm
Embrava:
Regen = 63 (hmmm....)
Regain = 5

Ok, now, I'm sure what to make of this. Also i noticed when i clicked off embrava I still had some regen going. Very low, like 1 a tick, now that I think back on it, it was probably my serpentes saboots which I was using for a quick mp set. Very stupid of me to wear them. Although they only give 1 regen so they shouldn't make much difference, the increase should be easy to see. But I'm curious as to why the decreases after i casted aurastorm. These two tests were done under the same 2hr with the same buffs. It is possible that i accidetly recorded the wrong numbers for before and after when calculating the regen on this one. However, for now, I'm going to conclude that mind does not have a huge impact on embrava. I need to redo all these tests using the recast of a spell (probably reraise) so they will be more accurate. Specifically the last two. It is also possible that the three aspects of embrava cap of at different lvls of enhancing and possibly mind. I may just be thinking to much into it. I'm not sure when I'll get around to the recast testing.

Last two tests added

Thanks, Pebe!

This is getting better. 5 Regain is the least I expected from a 2-hour spell in an update where we get no help to healing. 60 Regen isn't too shabby either (or did test 3 really push it to 66?). Meh on it not being a Regen V, castable any time, but kudos to the dev team for at least pumping this up a bit.

A few other questions for you:

1. This seems obvious but just to verify: Penury does reduce the MP cost to 15% of MP, yes?
2. What is the casting time, before Celerity?
3. What is the duration now, without Perpetuance?
4. Is the animation interesting? If it's the Brave spell from the dats it looked kinda boring :(

1. Didn't check will next time.
2. Didn't check will next time :P
3. Didn't check, will next time XD
4. Ehh it kind of like brave.

Let me go get the answers for your questions now, brb in 5 mins

Ok sorry it took so long, stupid embrava duration.
-All tests done as lvl 95 SCH/BLM with no gear
-All test done with light arts up ( i wanted to do without but needed to use penury to answer merton's question)

Mp cost with penury = 150/1002 = 14.97%
-This is interesting, it doesn't seem light arts benefit works for Embrava (Spell MP cost -10% i believe it is)

Casting without celerity = 3 seconds
-I want to say give or take .3 seconds because of light arts benefit, but now i'm not sure.

Duration without perpetuance - 5 mins

I wonder if this means the dark arts penalty would not affect these spells either hmmm.. But who would want to cast it in dart arts enhancing skill >.>

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Ok sorry it took so long, stupid embrava duration.
-All tests done as lvl 95 SCH/BLM with no gear
-All test done with light arts up ( i wanted to do without but needed to use penury to answer merton's question)

Mp cost with penury = 150/1002 = 14.97%
-This is interesting, it doesn't seem light arts benefit works for Embrava (Spell MP cost -10% i believe it is)

Casting without celerity = 3 seconds
-I want to say give or take .3 seconds because of light arts benefit, but now i'm not sure.

Duration without perpetuance - 5 mins

I wonder if this means the dark arts penalty would not affect these spells either hmmm.. But who would want to cast it in dart arts enhancing skill >.>

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The 10% LA reduction never applies to Penury - you get the flat 50% reduction (plus the AF3 pants Conserve MP)

3 second casting time is good. What about the recast? 5 minute duration is a great base. Does Perpetuance extend that to 10 minutes, and do AF+2 hands extend it to 12.5?

Thanks again man!

<< Is not staring at a screen to 10 mins to wait for embrava to wear off, at least not today XD The recast is low I'll get the value for you tomorrow probably, ls event starting soon. Since Accession works, I'm assuming perpetuance works. Will test later when i do the haste test on embrava. Thanks btw for pointing out the bonus doesn't apply with penury, I completely forgot.

Edit: Now i also need to test exactly how much mp is taken with light arts only and not penury.... Whether its 27% or 30%, although it doesn't really matter.

Perpetuance works. I would post some screenshots, but there's really no way to prove it from a screenshot lol.

Mega edit: I made a mistake, test 4 regen is 60 not 66. My bad.

Thanks a lot Bepe for the tests, they're really insightful. Could you test haste next? I'm sure you're doing it or will do soon, but wanted to ask anyway ;)

As for Casting Embrava in Dark Arts, don't worry: You're using your 2HR, so of course skill is B+ in all magic skills. I don't know if you'll get the +15 from AF1 legs, though.

Thank you for all of the testing Pebe. Those of us not on the test server really do appreciate it. And thanks to all those folks testing and posting feedback, it seems that SE is paying attention.

There was a new post on the JP SCH forum today. They are reducing the MP cost of both Embrava and Merton from 30% to 20%. Tabula Rasa's duration is being extended from 90 seconds to 180 seconds. Embrava will be castable on PC's outside of your party and they slightly increased the damage on Merton it seems.

They're also going to give us the reason for the addition of 2hr spells and they will continue adjusting Tabula Rasa at a later date. There are a lot of other items they want to adjust and going forward they are going to make SCH adjustments a priority.

I say we keep providing our constructive feedback. They are aware that SCH needs some work. If they tweak the right elements we'll be back in business.

I appreciate the Dev team being so open, transparent and willing to quickly make adjustments. The test servers are a great way to facilitate change. We may not always agree with their vision but I do think that they are hearing our concerns.

Sweet, I'm glad you or someone that could read it saw that post - so impatient for info but my google translate fu is poor.
180 seconds, that's really interesting, they've tripled the original duration from 1 minute to 3 - makes me wonder what they're really planning.

I do hope they're finally going to make Stratagems not wear off when casting under Tabula, though if they're increasing the duration to 180 seconds I highly doubt they will - unless they have plans to increase the duration of Chainspell and Manafont - since that just becomes highly overpowered. Hopefully they do some minor adjustments to it, making Tabula Rasa its own Arts (so it replaces Light/Dark rather than going alongside it) for starters, with full Addendum access and access to all Stratagems. It is fairly annoying to switch Arts during Tabula Rasa, especially with the 60 second recast on them.
I'd still rather have a 60 second duration provided that Stratagems don't wear off above all else though, but I'm not going to complain too much if they're tripling its duration. Still, it's annoying to have to reapply 3~5 Stratagems every spell; then again it is called Blank Slate.

Still, if they're looking for feedback it can't hurt for me to repost everything I've already suggested, again.
We really should have a single thread for feedback, having our suggestions sporadically spread across several threads can't make it easy for whoever has to go through these forums looking for it. Two thread, one for suggestions and one for discussion of suggestions seems like a good idea, though we'd need a moderator to have that work properly. I do have to wonder why SE doesn't just give two or three regulars from each job section demi-mod status and have them relay our suggestions to the actual mods who then take them to development, it would be far more efficient than having three or four mods cover the entire forum.

3 min tabula Rasa.... So I can cast Kaustra x15 in one 2hr @.@ MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHA! On another note, I guess i'll retest Kaustra when that update hits on same mobs to show the difference in max damage. Ty btw for pointing out that you get the skill benefit in both arts when under tabula rasa, you can tell that I didn't use it much :P. I probably won't get around to testing anymore for a little while as I have a lot of school work to do. I think having all stratedgems up for the entire duration of tabula rasa would be as you said, extremely overpowered. I could just go Ebullience >> parsimony >> alacrity >>Focalization >> enmity down one which i forget since its not merited >> manifestation >>> Blizzard V >> Kaustra >> Fire V >> Kaustra >> Blizzard V >> kaustra >> etc
Toss in a sublimation and convert maybe an aspir halfway through and that would just own manafont XD

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Thank you for all of the testing Pebe. Those of us not on the test server really do appreciate it. And thanks to all those folks testing and posting feedback, it seems that SE is paying attention.

There was a new post on the JP SCH forum today. They are reducing the MP cost of both Embrava and Merton from 30% to 20%. Tabula Rasa's duration is being extended from 90 seconds to 180 seconds. Embrava will be castable on PC's outside of your party and they slightly increased the damage on Merton it seems.

They're also going to give us the reason for the addition of 2hr spells and they will continue adjusting Tabula Rasa at a later date. There are a lot of other items they want to adjust and going forward they are going to make SCH adjustments a priority.

I say we keep providing our constructive feedback. They are aware that SCH needs some work. If they tweak the right elements we'll be back in business.

I appreciate the Dev team being so open, transparent and willing to quickly make adjustments. The test servers are a great way to facilitate change. We may not always agree with their vision but I do think that they are hearing our concerns.

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This makes me so happy.

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Tabula Rasa's duration is being extended from 90 seconds to 180 seconds.

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Any improvements are welcome, but I hope this doesnt make people think that this will 'fix' SCH.

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Embrava will be castable on PC's outside of your party

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I wonder it they'll make haste accessionable now too.

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They're also going to give us the reason for the addition of 2hr spells and they will continue adjusting Tabula Rasa at a later date. There are a lot of other items they want to adjust and going forward they are going to make SCH adjustments a priority.

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Maybe i'm just delusional, but I've never really thought that SCH needed major fixes to begin with. Sure adloq/animus spells suck, but it's not like they're a nerf. SCH has pretty much kept pace with the other mages except for light arts.

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I say we keep providing our constructive feedback. They are aware that SCH needs some work. If they tweak the right elements we'll be back in business.

I appreciate the Dev team being so open, transparent and willing to quickly make adjustments. The test servers are a great way to facilitate change. We may not always agree with their vision but I do think that they are hearing our concerns.

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Agreed! Thank you for all of your consideration devs.

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Originally Posted by Sasaraixx

Thank you for all of the testing Pebe. Those of us not on the test server really do appreciate it. And thanks to all those folks testing and posting feedback, it seems that SE is paying attention.

There was a new post on the JP SCH forum today. They are reducing the MP cost of both Embrava and Merton from 30% to 20%. Tabula Rasa's duration is being extended from 90 seconds to 180 seconds. Embrava will be castable on PC's outside of your party and they slightly increased the damage on Merton it seems.

They're also going to give us the reason for the addition of 2hr spells and they will continue adjusting Tabula Rasa at a later date. There are a lot of other items they want to adjust and going forward they are going to make SCH adjustments a priority.

I say we keep providing our constructive feedback. They are aware that SCH needs some work. If they tweak the right elements we'll be back in business.

I appreciate the Dev team being so open, transparent and willing to quickly make adjustments. The test servers are a great way to facilitate change. We may not always agree with their vision but I do think that they are hearing our concerns.

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You just made my day again Sasaraixx. This all sounds very encouraging, both in terms of looking forward to the changes and in the dev team's willingness to adjust based on test server feedback.

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You just made my day again Sasaraixx.

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I aim to please :)

I haven't translated posts lately because Camate's posts usually follow not too long afterwards. I figured with the holiday today there may be bit of a delay. Hopefully I didn't make any errors!

I will say that if they do stick with making Tabula Rasa 3 minutes, then I withdraw my request to make stratagems last the duratioin of the 2 hour.

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I will say that if they do stick with making Tabula Rasa 3 minutes, then I withdraw my request to make stratagems last the duratioin of the 2 hour.

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I always thought this would be a good idea if they did it with everything but Accession and Manifestation. There are some circumstances where I wouldn't want AOE buffs (storms) or enfeebles (fighting NMs amongst non-aggro mobs for example). I'd be fine with hitting just the AOE strat. But you're right, with a three minute duration this is less than necessary now. I'd still like it though. Even if it's technically easy to do and the time cost isn't as noticeable, it's still kind of messy looking and annoying to spam them all.

My idea was to make it so that you could toggle them on and off. For example, you use Accession during Tabula Rasa and the icon remains up for the full duration. You cast Embrava and what ever else you need and then you click the icon to toggle it off.

So much of the time of TR was eaten up by using charges. A 3 minute duration would alleviate that hassle a bit. 3 minutes of focalization, alacrity, parsimony and ebullience would be a bit much compared to other 2 hours I think. Having to use the strategems balances it out quite a bit imo.