Thoughts on the FFXI Job Adjustment Manifesto

[Merton9999]

I actually mean that the base MP cost can affect it. Parsimony cuts the MP consumption, but the base cost remains the same. I don't know if max MP will affect it, of course, but I think it isn't a ridiculous idea, either.

I wouldn't be surprised if MP affected it either but I'm really hoping it won't. Um...

Mordru starts casting Voidstorm on Mordru
Mordru uses a Lucid Ether III
Mordru uses Dark Arts
Mordry uses Parsimony
Mordru uses Alacrity
Mordru uses Ebullience
Mordru uses Manifestation
Mordru uses Tabula Rasa
Mordru starts casting Kaustra on the Akrab
Mordru hits 3 more macros to equip bonnet, obi, and INT or dark gear depending on whether I want large initial damage or more ticks.

Meanwhile the BLM has already killed all the mobs with Blizzaja.

Take the Lucid Ether III part out and we're a little more balanced.

Seriously, with all the reigns on this 2-hour only spell already, that doesn't even seem that impressive numerically, having the damage gimped by lower MP would make me insane. They can't even decide what to call Merton/Kaustra/Klaustra/Kamasutra yet, please not another roadblock.

[Eric]

The next thing I plan to test when i get around to it is kaustra's skillchain property, if it has one, I'm hoping that it is gravitation and not compression. Darkness skillchain via magic, yes please! Might be able to pull a magic burst to the skillchain as well since kaustra's recast is so low with alacrity. Although would probably need haste and fast gear to precast it in to lower that recast a little bit more. It might just be possible since Kaustra's animation takes forever and a day and there is a delay before the darkness skillchain appears.

It doesn't work with Immanence. Look at my post a while back. It's under Edit #4. http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/th...l=1#post182771

[Sotek]

I wouldn't be surprised if MP affected it either but I'm really hoping it won't. Um...

Mordru starts casting Voidstorm on Mordru
Mordru uses a Lucid Ether III
Mordru uses Dark Arts
Mordry uses Parsimony
Mordru uses Alacrity
Mordru uses Ebullience
Mordru uses Manifestation
Mordru uses Tabula Rasa
Mordru starts casting Kaustra on the Akrab
Mordru hits 3 more macros to equip bonnet, obi, and INT or dark gear depending on whether I want large initial damage or more ticks.

Meanwhile the BLM has already killed all the mobs with Blizzaja.

Take the Lucid Ether III part out and we're a little more balanced.

Seriously, with all the reigns on this 2-hour only spell already, that doesn't even seem that impressive numerically, having the damage gimped by lower MP would make me insane. They can't even decide what to call Merton/Kaustra/Klaustra/Kamasutra yet, please not another roadblock.

Damage would be based off the spells MP cost which is 30% of your maximum MP. Casting with 400MP when you have 1000MP should be exactly the same as casting with 1000MP. Casting with 400MP when your max is 1100MP should do more than casting with 1000MP when your max is 1000MP. As far as I know no one has tested this by stacking MP gear (Pluviale springs to mind).
I'm not going to dig it up, but I saw someone post that Embravas Regen/Regain/Haste was based off maximum MP and Enhancing skill, it doesn't seem too unlikely Kaustra would be the same assuming that source is correct.

[Pebe]

Ty Eric, Sorry I missed that. Kind of sucks though Q.Q

And sorry I was misunderstanding what you meant by maximum mp. I'll try to test it out if no ones beats me to it :P But, my crysta billed today and i don't know if there is money in my account >.>. And whether or not that will restrict me on the test server, time to find out!

Edit: If max mp does affect it, that would explain why i can't do as much damage as that dang sch in the video, and also why we was nuking in hvergelmir. I know the could have just tweak the damage for video purposes, but you never know! As soon as this dang update finishes i'll see what i can find out.

[TimeMage]

Damage would be based off the spells MP cost which is 30% of your maximum MP. Casting with 400MP when you have 1000MP should be exactly the same as casting with 1000MP. Casting with 400MP when your max is 1100MP should do more than casting with 1000MP when your max is 1000MP. As far as I know no one has tested this by stacking MP gear (Pluviale springs to mind).
I'm not going to dig it up, but I saw someone post that Embravas Regen/Regain/Haste was based off maximum MP and Enhancing skill, it doesn't seem too unlikely Kaustra would be the same assuming that source is correct.

THANK YOU, I though no one understood what I was saying. More max MP = more MP per cast consumed = higher damage???

[Pebe]

ok max mp kaustra testing.

-All tests use alacrity and parsimony unless stated otherwise

LVL 95 SCH/BLM
Base Int = 106
Base MP = 1002
Dark magic skill = 376

Test 1 - Naked
Kaustra = 543

Test 2 - Pluviale
Max mp = 1102
Kaustra = 543

Test 3 - Full MP Gear(I made sure absolutely no stats known to effect kaustra were in this set)
Max mp = 1447
Base Int = 106
Dark magic skill = 376
Kaustra = 543
Note - I wore morgana's choker during this test so I had -5 mind, which was different from usual. Since there was absolutely no change in damage, we can assume that mind does not affect this spell, unless it affects Dot, which I doubt. This is as expected but just a verification.

Test 4 - Same set up as above, but did not use parsiomony. I wanted to test to see if parsimony cutting the mp used in half affected Kaustra's damage. I assumed no from the results of Test 1-3 but just wanted to make sure.
Kaustra - 543

Conclusion: Current MP, MAX MP, Mind, and Parsimony all do not affect Kaustra's initial damage. (Thank God) However, I am unsure if any of these will affect the duration of the DoT along with dark magic skill. That remains to be tested.

Edit: (Just posting test results before gear so it didn't get accidently deleted like what happened to me a few times. My computer likes to go back pages by accident, making me lose everything I was in the middle of posting.)
Full mp gear set:
Savant's Bonnet +2
Pluviale
Vate's Cape (the 22 hp to mp one with -7 enmity)
Serpentes cuffs
Serpentes saboots
Goliard trews (I beleive this is what the pants are called)
Bifrost ring
Dusksoul ring (the one from the moogle)
Gifted Earring (the one from t3 vnm in grauberg)
loq earring
Morgana's Choker

Random thought - I should have done testing with max mp and the distrubution of damage via manifestation as a result of max mp. I doubt it will affect it at all, so I'll only test this if someone thinks it viable or if I'm bored and decide to get around to it :P !

[Pebe]

Btw, Sotek where did you find the post about Embrava and mp? Now I'm curious since Kaustra isn't affected by mp, unless i did something horribly wrong :P

[Raksha]

Btw, Sotek where did you find the post about Embrava and mp? Now I'm curious since Kaustra isn't affected by mp, unless i did something horribly wrong :P

http://www.ffxiah.com/forum/topic/24...ava/2/#1518747

[Pebe]

Ty! Btw Raksha, You may be jealous of my sexy taru int, but my jealousy of your signature knows no bounds +.-

[TimeMage]

Thanks a bunch, Pebe, it's clear that max MP doesn't affect it at all. Sooooo, it's INT for damage (MAB will play a factor too, of curse), and Dark magic skill for effect duration.