Thoughts on the FFXI Job Adjustment Manifesto

[zell_]

blizzard > nocto = compression + mb kaustra does work. kaustra and helix do stack, helix wearing before kaustra effect.

skillchain mb took maybe 10% or a little more of marvins hp.

helix wore at about 30% of his hp. and kaustra took him down to about 10-15% hp. quite impressive if you ask me.

level one skillchains are the way to go in terms of efficiency.

screenshot shows helix wearing before kaustra effect to verify that they do stack:kaustra and helix stack

id also like to note that kaustra dmg is determined by int and duration is determined by dark magic skill.

"Here are a couple of things related to Kaustra that you all have been quickly trying out on the test server.

• Kaustra’s DoT effect is not activating
This was listed in the confirmed bugs on the test server, but we confirmed that if Kaustra is used on an unclaimed monster (yellow name), a problem occurs where the damage over time will not activate. We are planning to fix this.

Make sure that when you change your level or jobs via the =TEST= Moogle GM in your mog house that you check to make sure your skill levels are raised.

When job changing via the Moogle GM, depending on the job combination you select, there are cases where the maximum skill will not be set properly.*

*Specifically, when the job your are changing into does not have the same skills as the previous job, the skill value will not be set properly.

Since Kaustra’s damage over time effect duration depends on your dark magic skill, if it is zero it will deal no damage over time.

In order to avoid any confusion, when job changing at the Moogle GM please make sure to reset your level once again. This will ensure that your job has the maximum skill values (blue numbers).

• Kaustra isn’t dealing damage
Kaustra was designed with the idea that it deals initial damage plus damage over time, but for the initial damage, INT plays more of a role as a damage modifier than magic attack bonus, making the spell stronger.

If you feel like that initial hit isn’t dealing much damage, make sure to check your equipment. As stated above, don’t forget to check you dark magic skill!"

once again, very interesting stuff here. ill edit my post later to test duration with varying skill levels. and i guess i can do initial damage too, but if there is anyone else out there on the servers, feel free to test it also.

[Sotek]

Was it really necessary to repost information that was posted just three pages ago?

level one skillchains are the way to go in terms of efficiency.

Aero V > Noctohelix = Gravitation seems like a better option to me.
Though if Blizzard Vs cast time isn't an issue (I don't like to assume) I suppose it would win out in terms of raw damage.

[zell_]

yea that one works too. just as long as the second spell in the chain and magic burst spell are of the same element so we can have the skillchain and the burst benefit from the weather we are wearing. at that point, i believe that is maximum efficiency. there are many combos that do work.

[Pebe]

Ok I did some Kaustra testing today to test out the effect of int:

-None of these test were done on Darksday
-None of these test used kilmaform, voidstorm, or Ebullience unless stated
-Only parsimony and alacrity were used unless stated otherwise
-Each test was done twice on two different lvl 0 mob types(mandies and bees) in Sarutabaruta to ensure consistancy.
-Crap I forgot to take note of my dark magic skill geared, however no dark magic skill geared was used unless noted. So dark magic skill = lvl 95 SCH with dark arts up. No dark magic skill merits. I believe it was around 376, in my dark skill test coming later I was wearing af3+1 body, relic legs and the aesir torque and had 405 skill, so working backwards that should put me at 376.

Job: 95 SCH/BLM
Race = Tarutartu
Base Int = 106 (8 int merits)

Test 1 - No gear
Kaustra Damage - 543

Test 2 - No gear - Voidstorm (3 int stormsurge)
Kaustra Damage - 548

Test 3 - Anrin Obi - Voidstorm(3 int stormsurge)
Kausta Damage - 602

Conclusion so far - Unlike helixes, Kaustra does not automatically gain the storm bonus without obi.

Test 4 - 7 int(Icesoul Ring)
Total Int = 106 +7 = 113
Kaustra Damage = 564

Test 5 - 10 int(Icesoul Ring + snow pearl)
Total Int = 116
Kaustra Damage = 575

Test 6 = 17 int (Icesoul ring x2 + snow pearl)
Total Int = 123
Kaustra Damage = 601

Test 7 = 20 int (Ring x2 + snow pearl x2)
Total Int = 126
Kaustra Damage = 612

Test 8 = Full int gear, 0 MAB in gear, no staff
Total Int = 183
Kaustra Damage = 829

Test 9 = Full geared (please refer to full gear set at end of this post)
Total Int = 155, Total MAB = 39 from gear, No klimaform or Ebullience yet
Twilight Cape, obi, weather
Kaustra Damage = 1242

Test 10 - Same as above + klimaform and ebullience
Total int = 150 (Dropped 5 from hat change for ebullience), Total mab from gear = 39
Kaustra damage = 1734

Test 11 - Remove all gear and replace with dark magic skill gear, no buffs
Total int = 106+8, Dark magic skill = 405 (wearing af1+1 body, relic legs and aesir neckpiece)
Kaustra Damage = 570

Conclusion from test 11 - dark magic skill probably does not increase damage. If it does, it is not noticeable at all.

Test 12 - no gear. no buffs, 3 monsters, Manifestation
Base int = 106, 0 mab
Kaustra Damage on all 3 mobs = 406

Test 13 - no gear, no buffs, 10 monsters, manifestation
Base int = 106, 0 mab
Kaustra damage on 9/10 mobs = 217
1 mob half resisted me for around 108

Edit: I posted post so it wouldn't accidently get deleted halfway through and I'd have to rewrite everything, here is the rest of it.

Full gear set for test 9 and 10:
Pluto's Staff (Don't laugh >.>)
Elemental Grip (Don't laugh >.>)
Witchstone
Scholar mortarboard +1 (Changed to Savant's Bonnet +2 for test 10)
Savant's Chain
Novio earring
Hecates earring
Savants Gown +2
Vicious mufflers
Iceosul ring
Strendu Ring
Twilight Cape
Anrin Obi
Cybele Pants (Is this the right spelling? the 10 int ones from smok)
Savant's feet +2

So this is all i was able to get for now/think of recording. If you want more data for calculations let me know.

Edit 2 for comparison:
Did a Blizzard V in the same full gear set, switching to aquilo's staff and hyorin obi and hail storm.
With klimaform and ebullience Blizzard V did 3699.
Cryohelix did 479.

[zell_]

Test 11 - Remove all gear and replace with dark magic skill gear, no buffs
Total int = 106+8, Dark magic skill = 405 (wearing af1+1 body, relic legs and aesir neckpiece)
Kaustra Damage = 570

Conclusion from test 11 - dark magic skill probably does not increase damage. If it does, it is not noticeable at all.

skill will only effect duration of the spell. tested it in an earlier post.

[Raksha]

Base Int = 106 (8 int merits)

I hate you.

/jelly

[TimeMage]

Ok I did some Kaustra testing today to test out the effect of int:

Excellent tests, thanks. Can you test next time if maximum MP affects it? Considering it always consumes 30% of the maximum, it isn't unreasonable to think that the more MP spent, the better the effect. 2-3 tests with different MP totals with the same INT would suffice, I guess.

[Pebe]

I can say with confidence mp doesn't affect it. I parsimony/alacrity Kaustra'd about 6 times per 2hr (yes this is possible, it's recast is extremely low with alacrity), i started at around 1100 mp and ended with about 300 mp. The results remained un changed. Actually now that you mention it, i forgot to post that before I did all this testing I did a few kaustra's in a row in 1 2hr just to make sure the damage was consistant and to see how many kaustras i could get off.

[Pebe]

The next thing I plan to test when i get around to it is kaustra's skillchain property, if it has one, I'm hoping that it is gravitation and not compression. Darkness skillchain via magic, yes please! Might be able to pull a magic burst to the skillchain as well since kaustra's recast is so low with alacrity. Although would probably need haste and fast gear to precast it in to lower that recast a little bit more. It might just be possible since Kaustra's animation takes forever and a day and there is a delay before the darkness skillchain appears.

[TimeMage]

I actually mean that the base MP cost can affect it. Parsimony cuts the MP consumption, but the base cost remains the same. I don't know if max MP will affect it, of course, but I think it isn't a ridiculous idea, either.