Fix Housing Megathread

[Caitsithhh]

“Side Content” not “Owed Content”

[MilkieTea]

“Side Content” not “Owed Content”

Sure, it’s not owed, but it’s quite obvious that *THIS* scarcity is not by design.

Let people talk about it. If you don’t want to see it, it’s easy to ignore it and go to other threads.

[Themarvin]

Everyone can get a house, an apartment offer the exact same features, except for the garden, visually and enhancing the current apartment system would solve a lot of things.

It is unlikely that we would end with enough houses for everyt signed in account or active spot in game as it is, just playing with logic and reality.

1. Remove Grandfathering, that exist on most servers if not all, some people got more than one house on their single account.
2. Add upkeep as in paying rent or tax for the plot, don't make it cheap.
3. If house is not freequently used or interacted with by the owner, or forgotten... make an alghoritm that does that House Demolition feature start early, unless doing something about it.
4. Make medium and large apartments, but make the cost of those incredible high.
5. increase the item limit for houses inside, so you can eg. have 800 or 1200 slots in a large, 4-500in a madeium and 300ish in a small.
6. Remove garden patches for growing things, and make it an instanced thing like a greenhouse or something for everything, 3 deluxe gardens no matter if apartment or house.
7. Add on a time served, so being able to buy a house plot alone, does not only mean you need to fullfill the base requirement, but also a loyalty program, meaning you need to have been active subscribed for a year or so to be able to buy a house plot.
8. This game need more options as in how to place things, so we do not have to keep on using legal clitches, give us the tools to turn and place and rotate... and float... instead of having to use specific created loopholes in the game for it.
9. Be able to alter the interrior build.. so it does not have to have eg. Shirogane or Mist frames and pillars and whatever, give a choice to change things and re-build looks.

[Sotaris]

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tldr: punish your players for you playing your game.

[Themarvin]

tldr: punish your players for you playing your game.

If you look around, there is ALOT of never used houses.. nor decorated or anything, as it go today, it is much about having a trophy rather than something you are actually am going to use..

What punishment do you refer to?

[Sotaris]

If you look around, there is ALOT of never used houses.. nor decorated or anything, as it go today, it is much about having a trophy rather than something you are actually am going to use..

I agree and those people should start using their houses or let them go, but at the same time I don't think end of the day neither you, me or SE can decide what i should do with my house.

What punishment do you refer to?

Your own list. Point 1 and 2 specifically.

1. Remove Grandfathering, that exist on most servers if not all, some people got more than one house on their single account.

These people never broke any rules. Why take away the houses if people got a house extra when it will not fix anything in the end of the day.

2. Add upkeep as in paying rent or tax for the plot, don't make it cheap.

So, not only did I need to pay 5/20/50m or how much small/medium/large goes for nowadays, now I need to pay a rent, aside of paying a sub fee for the game?

[Barwara]

If you look around, there is ALOT of never used houses.. nor decorated or anything, as it go today, it is much about having a trophy rather than something you are actually am going to use..

What punishment do you refer to?

Or people may not be able to decorate their house right away. I’m pretty sure that in the unlikely scenario I purchase a house, it will stand empty until I save up enough to even be able to furnish it and decorate it. Just because that part is super expensive as well.

You are entitled to your opinions but your arguments aren’t very convincing to me. You seem to be neglecting the fact players should be able to play at their own pace without having to grind away to always have enough money at the end of the month to pay ‘rent’. I for sure do not play often enough anymore to consistently make enough gil. I also wouldn’t want the game to have such obligations just for me to keep the items I collected or already purchased.

Now you might argue that housing is a luxury item that not everyone should own, but well, I’ll disagree on that too.

[Mesarthim]

2. Add upkeep as in paying rent or tax for the plot, don't make it cheap.

People need to stop suggesting this idiotic idea. It does little more than punish people.

[Jojoya]

People need to stop suggesting this idiotic idea. It does little more than punish people.

So does the ward system by not allowing every player to have a house. After all, they too are paying a monthly sub fee. Why are you and I allowed houses for paying that sub fee but others aren't? They are effectively being punished for something outside of their control.

A recurring gil fee does not have to be prohibitively expensive, just enough to deter people from holding houses they aren't actively using. Actively playing the game would cover the fee while leaving the player with plenty of more gil for buying other items.

[squidmonarchy]

So does the ward system by not allowing every player to have a house. After all, they too are paying a monthly sub fee. Why are you and I allowed houses for paying that sub fee but others aren't? They are effectively being punished for something outside of their control.

A recurring gil fee does not have to be prohibitively expensive, just enough to deter people from holding houses they aren't actively using. Actively playing the game would cover the fee while leaving the player with plenty of more gil for buying other items.

I don't really understand the point of the fee then. We've already got the requirement that people step inside/interact with their house at some point over a span of 45 days. They have to be logged in to do that.

There's also the issue that depending on where a person is in the game, gil can be very easy or very difficult to get. I think most endgame folks aren't going to have a problem paying a substantial fee, but a sprout that's still going through the MSQ, who may have scraped and saved their gil to be able to afford a plot, might have a serious problem.