Fix Housing Megathread

[geminipestdeath]

Yeah this "megathread" did exactly what I thought it would and just created a soap box for the same four or five people to play the contrarian to anyone who dislikes the current system, patting each other on the back with every post. This exercise in consolidating peoples' thought into one area so that "the devs could more easily see it" was an exercise in futility. Honestly, hats off to the people who are at least pitching ideas, cause the rest of you who tell them they're bad ideas haven't contributed a single thing in fifteen pages besides "lol add more servers" - like that's hasn't been suggested and equally lambasted because we all know it just isn't feasible.

Que another five pages of "no you" and "bad idea hurr", please. I'm sure the devs would love to see all of it for how valuable it is.

[Besame]

Silent auction or people with care for others (not enough of them in an MMO) will not make a dent in the housing problem. Only fix is a revamp to all instanced. All this mega-threading with long, drawn out "Eureka's" are fine and dandy if you are bored, I suggest just short replies containing "Instanced housing" might do you one better. However, keep in mind that at the end of the day, Yochi gets what Yochi wants. Too bad it's not a new wig...

[Almagnus1]

Silent auction or people with care for others (not enough of them in an MMO) will not make a dent in the housing problem. Only fix is a revamp to all instanced. All this mega-threading with long, drawn out "Eureka's" are fine and dandy if you are bored, I suggest just short replies containing "Instanced housing" might do you one better.

Auction idea may actually help with one of the problems facing housing: We do not have enough gil sinks, so deleting vast sums of gil from the game (by getting people at gil cap to dump it on absurd housing bid wars) may help with that.

[Divinemights]

Yeah this "megathread" did exactly what I thought it would and just created a soap box for the same four or five people to play the contrarian to anyone who dislikes the current system, patting each other on the back with every post. This exercise in consolidating peoples' thought into one area so that "the devs could more easily see it" was an exercise in futility. Honestly, hats off to the people who are at least pitching ideas, cause the rest of you who tell them they're bad ideas haven't contributed a single thing in fifteen pages besides "lol add more servers" - like that's hasn't been suggested and equally lambasted because we all know it just isn't feasible.

Que another five pages of "no you" and "bad idea hurr", please. I'm sure the devs would love to see all of it for how valuable it is.

Oh no Twitter is here, if you do not agree with me (even the idea is absurd) you are the enemy

[Catstab]

"lol add more servers"

As much as it sucks, beyond "overhaul the housing system and make it instanced" the only solution left is indeed "add more servers/wards." And Yoshi P has said many times he wants the neighborhoods, so instances are unlikely.

The only other approach to boosting supply? Nuking demand. My suggestion is and always has been: increase house pricing by 10 times, to their original costs. 40m small, 200m med, 500m large.

Of course 5700 houses is not enough for 20,000 people on the server when you get 5 million gil for finishing the story and it only costs 3 million for a house. So either you make 4x as many houses as there are now, or you make it so 75% of people cant even consider getting houses, or it continues where only 25% of people have houses and more than that are eligible/interested.

Of course suggestions like "SE should tailor-make a feature the size of a small expansion pack to overhaul the housing system and thereby re-distribute player dissatisfaction slightly" are bad. It's a ton of work for no results, which is a bad business decision.

[Arielen]

cause the rest of you who tell them they're bad ideas haven't contributed a single thing in fifteen pages besides "lol add more servers" - like that's hasn't been suggested and equally lambasted because we all know it just isn't feasible.

No, really, we do need more actual servers and datacenters. The game has been getting progressively bigger for several years now and the American and EU servers are already double the load of the JP servers. If they can spare an oceania DC, surely they can find a way to sort out more EU and American servers.

[Almagnus1]

No, really, we do need more actual servers and datacenters. The game has been getting progressively bigger for several years now and the American and EU servers are already double the load of the JP servers. If they can spare an oceania DC, surely they can find a way to sort out more EU and American servers.

I imagine a large part of that is that SE is expanding slowly, and I do not fault them for exercising extreme caution when it comes to datacenters. On the bright side, when the Oceanic DC comes into existence, it may help open up housing on the other datacenters with the transfers.

[Arielen]

I imagine a large part of that is that SE is expanding slowly, and I do not fault them for exercising extreme caution when it comes to datacenters. On the bright side, when the Oceanic DC comes into existence, it may help open up housing on the other datacenters with the transfers.

Unfortunately most of that housing will be on JP, where they still have some servers that have smalls with 0 timers lol

[Almagnus1]

Unfortunately most of that housing will be on JP, where they still have some servers that have smalls with 0 timers lol

You think this issue is not going to be seriously addressed until it's a problem in JP?

[Seleni]

The game should try to advertise apartments better. It’s the instance housing that people keep asking for but many house-seekers tend to dismiss it outright. (I wonder how many people know that apartment room is bigger than the usable space on a cottage first floor? It may not be obvious if you’d only ever seen fully decorated smalls)

To help illustrate the differences and similarities between apartment/FC room and a cottage, they could add a quest, with either cutscenes or quest area, to show off an empty apartment room and an empty cottage.

And if possible, they can show off the two furnished, with vendor-sold furnishing, interactive items available at the inn (besides dresser of course), and vendor NPCs. (Both within respective item limit, of course. And no glitching allowed; that’d be false advertising). Ideally they would make it a hands-on quest to let player decorate the room(s) using a set of predetermined furnishings.

This way players can get a taste of what it actually would be like, without having to buy an apartment/house first. And maybe more people would consider getting an apartment first, so they wouldn’t feel so deprived of housing.