Garuda Feather 600K!

You've got to be kidding me 600K for the dam feather..now I don't need the dam thing
but it's killing participation in other dungeons like Ifrit HM and it's going to cause more players to buy GIl from sellers...

Housing is around the corner save your money don't support this BS

how about 1 mil Titan clears ... people are seriously paying that.

It's like Ifirits horn. It's just a novelty item to display in FC/Player housing. It's not used for anything and is purely for decoration. Who cares if it's almost a million gil, it'll be more once player housing comes out.

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Actually, Yoshi stated to hold onto it as it will be used for furnishing for your house.

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Thats what I meant, like here:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_15T...etailpage#t=50 you can see Ifirits horn. Thats what it'll be used for. Player housing in a purely decorational sense.

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It's like Ifirits horn. It's just a novelty item to display in FC/Player housing. It's not used for anything and is purely for decoration. Who cares if it's almost a million gil, it'll be more once player housing comes out.

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Actually, Yoshi stated to hold onto it as it will be used for furnishing for your house.

what is this topic about - do players offer to help you to pass some trial for gil ? O_o

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what is this topic about - do players offer to help you to pass some trial for gil ? O_o

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The 3 hard mode primals drop items which will be used to synth special furniture items for your Free Company house when the housing comes in the next update. They have a notoriously low drop rate, so people are selling them for a mint.

http://www.finalfantasy.net/wp-conte...3/04/ifrit.png

You can't sell these housing drops from primals. They appear as unsellable on the item's description.

Edit: I guess you could sell them by trading. You can't put them up on the market, though.

Bit oot, so is it confirmed when the patch 2.1 is coming? I read it somewhere mid october? or is it november

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You've got to be kidding me 600K for the dam feather..now I don't need the dam thing
but it's killing participation in other dungeons like Ifrit HM and it's going to cause more players to buy GIl from sellers...

Housing is around the corner save your money don't support this BS

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ppl who dont have skill at the game or have time to make friends in the game but have alot of gil will always buy runs...

they are not going to be able to help you down group content anyway, so you are not missing out on any potential pt members dude...

and no, the players whom sell runs would NEVER have grouped with you even if they did not sell runs... they run content with themselves or for profit only and are RARELY interested in helping anyone out that is not on their friend lists or has no gil =P

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they run content with themselves or for profit only and are RARELY interested in helping anyone out that is not on their friend lists or has no gil =P

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And that is just sad and what is wrong with this game.

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And that is just sad and what is wrong with this game.

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nothing is wrong with the game, nor is there anything wrong with just playing the game with your friends or to make game money...

just because they choose not to spend time playing games with random strangers for no personal gain doesnt make them bad gamers

seriously, back off the entitlement - random strangers dont owe other random strangers ANYTHING in a game, including their time...

is it cool if random strangers DO help out other random strangers? of course

but it certainly is FINE if they choose not to as well

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Originally Posted by Adol

You can't sell these housing drops from primals. They appear as unsellable on the item's description.

Edit: I guess you could sell them by trading. You can't put them up on the market, though.

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"Unsellable" means you can't vendor it. That's all.

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seriously, back off the entitlement - random strangers don't owe other random strangers ANYTHING in a game, including their time...

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I am not being entitled I just simply think it is wrong to charge fellow players for something that takes little time to help with. I myself do not do it but I guess to each their own.

It's wonderful that there are rare drop items that sell for a lot on the market boards. Most sellable stuff in the game is too easy to get, which makes the game economy boring.

It's a shame that such vocal people want gil to be worthless/pointless as a "solution" to RMT. Exterminating RMT is important, but we can't react to it in a way that ruins a big part of the game.

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http://www.finalfantasy.net/wp-conte...3/04/ifrit.png

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Why are they focusing on stuff like this when they should be focusing on getting more dungeons and raids in the game. This is just a big money sink and nothing else.

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Why are they focusing on stuff like this when they should be focusing on getting more dungeons and raids in the game. This is just a big money sink and nothing else.

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Someone hasn't been keeping up to date with news about 2.1.

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Originally Posted by Inosaska

Why are they focusing on stuff like this when they should be focusing on getting more dungeons and raids in the game. This is just a big money sink and nothing else.

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I couldn't disagree more. Player housing and cool furnishings are one of the most loved aspects of many MMOs. I loved making an awesome, unique evil mansion in EQ2 and having a fun, cozy, well-decorated Mog House in FFXI. It gives a great sense of investment, immersion, and individuality.

Plus, housing items can be great for the game economy, a boon for crafters, and it can even make dungeons and raids more worthwhile too.

Who doesn't want to proudly display their hard-earned, valuable, gorgeous raid spoils in their home?? Raid-dropped housing items would make for perfect synergy in FFXIV.

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nothing is wrong with the game, nor is there anything wrong with just playing the game with your friends or to make game money...

just because they choose not to spend time playing games with random strangers for no personal gain doesnt make them bad gamers

seriously, back off the entitlement - random strangers dont owe other random strangers ANYTHING in a game, including their time...

is it cool if random strangers DO help out other random strangers? of course

but it certainly is FINE if they choose not to as well

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This^ Entitlement mentalities can go die in a fire, a hot, circular eruption of Ifrit Hard Mode fire.

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Why are they focusing on stuff like this when they should be focusing on getting more dungeons and raids in the game. This is just a big money sink and nothing else.

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Because the same team that designs fluff items, is the same team that designs soul-crushing dungeon mechanics, right?

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Someone hasn't been keeping up to date with news about 2.1.

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3 Rehashes of primals already out. A new primal fight with Mog King. Crystal Tower and 1 new dungeon. Have you bothered to keep up with how fast people are clearing stuff in this game? This stuff only comes out in November. Please tell me how they are going to keep players playing this game during October. They need more end game content otherwise they will lose the raiders who are the people that want to play this game for the long term. Watch more progression websites instead of pointing the finger at me.

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3 Rehashes of primals already out. A new primal fight with Mog King. Crystal Tower and 1 new dungeon. Have you bothered to keep up with how fast people are clearing stuff in this game? This stuff only comes out in November. Please tell me how they are going to keep players playing this game during October. They need more end game content otherwise they will lose the raiders who are the people that want to play this game for the long term. Watch more progression websites instead of pointing the finger at me.

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Remind me again how many groups have cleared Coil.

You're missing two hard modes for existing dungeons and PvP. And as far as the latest update, not one group has finished clearing the fifth run of Coil, and not many people are even to Coil.

I present to you this chart as well:

http://wac.7725.edgecastcdn.net/8077...nSCIAEQO8_.png

Not that many people at lvl 50, huh.

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ppl who dont have skill at the game or have time to make friends in the game but have alot of gil will always buy runs...

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good luck when your friend are busy with life commitment and feel that they dont have enough money yet to start with double meld craft weapon

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I present to you this chart as well:

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Interesting chart, curious as to where it originated from. Is it fan made by just using lodestone information or is it from SE themselves? Would be curious as to class distribution too. I seriously hope they do censuses for XIV like they did for XI, loved going through the stuff in them as was very interesting to see the trends of players and where oneself fit into the big picture.

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Interesting chart, curious as to where it originated from. Is it fan made by just using lodestone information or is it from SE themselves? Would be curious as to class distribution too. I seriously hope they do censuses for XIV like they did for XI, loved going through the stuff in them as was very interesting to see the trends of players and where oneself fit into the big picture.

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They did a census for XIV at TGS. I'll plop the charts down here:

Connections:
http://wac.7725.edgecastcdn.net/8077...nhCUAApHBB.png

Level Distribution:
http://wac.7725.edgecastcdn.net/8077...nSCIAEQO8_.png

Class Distribution:
http://wac.7725.edgecastcdn.net/8077...3/09/queue.jpg

Grand Company Distribution:
http://wac.7725.edgecastcdn.net/8077...mPCAAAw0e3.png

Sourced from: http://www.xivnation.com/news/eorzea...live-letter-1/

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They did a census for XIV at TGS. I'll plop the charts down here:

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Thank you kindly. Good to see they are doing censuses, and I hope they keep doing them. Hopefully the first big one has more details than this one, but cool to see how things are breaking out this early in the games life.

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You're missing two hard modes for existing dungeons and PvP. And as far as the latest update, not one group has finished clearing the fifth run of Coil, and not many people are even to Coil.

Not that many people at lvl 50, huh.

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For the first point. I point you towards this persons post.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...=1#post1317953

Second point everyone needs a level 15 in order to unlock a job.

Third point is this is a marketing tactic in order to try and draw in people to buying the game and then I refer you back to point number one. It's funny to show stats before the free month is up don't you think so?

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So you pick out one random person's opinion and apply it to SE's vision for the future?

Why is it funny? It's just info as to the current demographics. I think you may want to loosen the tinfoil hat.

How about hitting 50 yourself, and forming your own opinion instead of relying on others to tell you how you should feel.

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I would of had a level 50(Multiple jobs) character if sadly they did not lose my v1.0 Elezen which they did and have no way to recover it so please keep typing away at your hearts content as this discussion is over.

Here is some proof for you.

http://i.imgur.com/TsTx4a7.png

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For the first point. I point you towards this persons post.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...=1#post1317953

Second point everyone needs a level 15 in order to unlock a job.

Third point is this is a marketing tactic in order to try and draw in people to buying the game and then I refer you back to point number one. It's funny to show stats before the free month is up don't you think so?

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The spike at 15 was rather expected due to the job unlocks in an all class inclusive data chart. Though for number of players with a 50, that chart can be a little misleading due to it being inclusive of all classes as there are 19?(might be off as not sure on number of crafting ones offhand) classes currently, and the lower ones are going to be inflated due to people experimenting.

And the biggest point that post you linked had is what is there for player retention once done with the story. This is what I am curious about the most, though it looks like they have plans for this already with housing (which caused this thread to start in the first place) and they have additional content planned too. Even with a class at 50, I still have plenty of things I want to do currently in game. So long as the focus on releasing quality content, instead of content just to feed the content locusts I'll be happy.

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Originally Posted by Inosaska

For the first point. I point you towards this persons post.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...=1#post1317953

Second point everyone needs a level 15 in order to unlock a job.

Third point is this is a marketing tactic in order to try and draw in people to buying the game and then I refer you back to point number one. It's funny to show stats before the free month is up don't you think so?

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So you pick out one random person's opinion and apply it to SE's vision for the future?

Why is it funny? It's just info as to the current demographics. I think you may want to loosen the tinfoil hat.

How about hitting 50 yourself, and forming your own opinion instead of relying on others to tell you how you should feel.

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Originally Posted by Inosaska

I would of had a level 50(Multiple jobs) character if sadly they did not lose my v1.0 Elezen which they did and have no way to recover it so please keep typing away at your hearts content as this discussion is over.

Here is some proof for you.

http://i.imgur.com/TsTx4a7.png

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I have a v1 save slot too. It's not 50, so not much "proof". Besides, that's v1 of the game, completely different than the current version.

But you've let others make up your mind for you, so whatever floats your boat I guess.

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This stuff only comes out in November. Please tell me how they are going to keep players playing this game during October. They need more end game content otherwise they will lose the raiders who are the people that want to play this game for the long term.

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So, how was turn 5?
Easy to complete?

Seriously though...
We're a serious end-game raiding Free Company and gearing up other classes and trying to burn through the coil is our plan, then once we have most of the coil's patterns down we'll farm the gear from it until we have our main and secondary jobs geared with Alagan ready for the new content in Late October/Late November.


The one thing we definitely have and most Legacy Players (and non legacy too) have shown in FFXIV, is patience.

BUCKETS of patience. We don't need everything to be a long-grind or new content to be served on a weekly basis. There's a reason we're paying monthly.

Even the raiders from other games are showing this simple degree of patience, they did it in WoW, TERA, SWKOTR.


Get back to us when they've all finished the Binding Coil and are sitting twiddling their thumbs in Ul'dah.

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So, how was turn 5?
Easy to complete?

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You know...I always find it funny when people bring this up - "So about that 0.1% of content in this game after you've easily cleared 99.9% of the game that's supposed to keep you busy.." That's never a good sign for an MMORPG, especially a relaunched one which already had a lot of end-game content they simply re-purposed instead of expanding on.

For example, we had Ifrit, Garuda and the moogles for primals in 1.0, why is Moogles coming in an update instead of say, Leviathan? They had to remake certain stuff due to the battle system change, that is true, but when you look at the patch updates, the "keep us busy" content is pretty much just new versions of dungeons, rereleasing old content (Moogles) and releasing content pushed back from launch (Crystal Tower.)

Why in the world...?

Talk about greedy.

I am now very happy with my LS and FC.

(Not like I hated them before or anything...)

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You know...I always find it funny when people bring this up - "So about that 0.1% of content in this game after you've easily cleared 99.9% of the game that's supposed to keep you busy.." That's never a good sign for an MMORPG, especially a relaunched one which already had a lot of end-game content they simply re-purposed instead of expanding on.

For example, we had Ifrit, Garuda and the moogles for primals in 1.0, why is Moogles coming in an update instead of say, Leviathan? They had to remake certain stuff due to the battle system change, that is true, but when you look at the patch updates, the "keep us busy" content is pretty much just new versions of dungeons, rereleasing old content (Moogles) and releasing content pushed back from launch (Crystal Tower.)

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What's the name of the MMO your company is releasing in 2 years with all new content?

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You're missing two hard modes for existing dungeons and PvP. And as far as the latest update, not one group has finished clearing the fifth run of Coil, and not many people are even to Coil.

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You also forgot the return of Hildebrand in patch 2.1.

http://i50.tinypic.com/24l0gag.png

Can't wait to play the Hildebrand storyline Quests.

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What's the name of the MMO your company is releasing in 2 years with all new content?

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The job quests is new content? I remember the same storylines in 1.23 or around there. The primal fights? Yeah that is not new. Lets see the adding of the Moogle... right that was done before the realm was reborn.

So what is this all new content you are speaking about?

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The job quests is new content? I remember the same storylines in 1.23 or around there. The primal fights? Yeah that is not new. Lets see the adding of the Moogle... right that was done before the realm was reborn.

So what is this all new content you are speaking about?

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Do keep up please. I didn't say there was a ton of new content, but apparently people think SE can churn out loads of new content, while coding a new MMO in 2 years, while keeping a dying patient on life support as well.

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You also forgot the return of Hildebrand in patch 2.1.

http://i50.tinypic.com/24l0gag.png

Can't wait to play the Hildebrand storyline Quests.

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I was starting to regret I read this thread full of complaining and moaning. I did not know this was happening in 2.1! I feel better now, thank you :D